What Is Known For Absolute Certain

Satchi: The real issue is not whether Tenka knew ancient Egyptians in past lives or has been contacted by aliens. What those two experiences and doing something mundane like brushing your teeth all have in common is that they are impermanent. All three examples are phenomena which appear and disappear. When Papaji visited Ramana he told him that he had been meditating on Lord Krishna for twenty years and he actually appeared to him on many occasions. As he sat there Ramana asked him if Krishna was appearing to him now. Papaji said he was not. So it isn't real, said Ramana. Look for that which doesn't appear and disappear. Know the Self. That is the only reality.

Search the Internet. The world of "spiritual growth" is full of stories about the fantastical. People are naturally attracted to the extraordinary. It seems harmless enough, but when peeps begin to think there is some special knowledge contained in so called supernatural and other off world experiences that will somehow explain in a more profound way what reality is, or add something to it which isn't already there, then the potential is there for greater ignorance by looking for greater meaning in this kind of phenomena, instead of discovering the self evident truth of transcendent reality which is beyond all phenomena no matter what it is.

Satchi: It's important to know because as a discipline it's absolutely crucial that the seeker sticks with what they actually know directly as an experience and nothing else. The slightest deviation from that lets in an avalanche of ideas and concepts in which you will be trapped until the end of time. The purpose of admitting that when you turn away from your house there is no house is not some kind of philosophical argument about whether the house really exists or not. it's an admission that you only know what you know via the mind and senses. And since knowing one's true nature is simply to know that you are the ultimate subject or knower, that discipline of only allowing what you actually know in the moment helps to facilitate that essential transcendence which takes you to the field of being and realizing that that is what you are. If on the other hand you have become completely captivated by beliefs, concepts teaching traditions etc it's very difficult to shake all of those off so that the mind becomes quiet enough which is already half the journey.

SDP: Yea? ....No. I'm going to have to call that nonsense. Nobody driving off to work will wonder anytime during the day, I wonder of my house will be there when I go home this afternoon? (Until you read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy).

Muttley: That simply doesn't comport with your content. Look, in relative terms, we're both relatively learned in certain topics which leads us into these dialogs.

But that relative knowledge about these models of what we perceive has no ultimate value in terms of "defining existence", because existence, "Consciousness", "SOCI" or whatever you want to call it or what your mind believes to be the most important facets of it cannot be defined. That's the true meaning of knowing that you know nothing.

The only value Physics has for self-inquiry is the potential some of these results offer you to stop looking to Physics as being of any value in the pursuit.

And it has potential depth, this not-knowing. Anytime you notice the mind reaching for an explanation, there is some measure of falsity involved. My interest in QM lies in how it can be interpreted as a sort of anti-knowledge. It negates the assumption of objective reality, and if you refrain from reaching for some alternative explanation, you can rest, for just that moment, in a genuine absence of knowing. Don't worry, all this mind stuff will be here later.

Sree: Abscissa, I am the self - the human consciousness. My one role is to take care of the body. I am the body's minder. I am stuck in this karma till the body dies. My despair comes from you and others making it hard for me to fulfill my one simple role. You are another me. Are you living the way I am living and focused only on taking care of your body and not messing up the world for me? Just look at crazy Nancy. She want to mess up Taiwan the way she messed up Hong Kong. Why can't our politicians be good Americans?

Sharon: That's the lie that you keep telling yourself. Don't worry, I understand how deeply embedded it is.