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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2024 0:30:38 GMT
Not yet, it hasn't. Close now, but not there yet. Dark powers and principalities who have long controlled the earth are being dealt with but their grip on the affairs of man/world run deep and wide via their minions and control of money. They are powerful but we are more so. Much work has already been done but there is more to do. The earth is fast approaching a near-death experience in more ways than one but the Light will prevail in the end. And yes, earth is consciousness and so is everyone else. Soon everyone will know that, even figs. Hope everyone is prepared. Rick, have you ever considered that "the light prevailing" starts at home, with you? It is so important right now for all of us to see this; Clean up your own back yard first before you start pointing to a "world out there," that is evil/flawed/dark. Every instant you are offered an opportunity to allow "the light to prevail." Do you think you're doing that when you lash out to name-call and denigrate, just because someone dares to challenge a particular idea/belief of yours? The larger "world in peril...dark and evil, en masse" idea, often serves as a means to gloss over the smaller, microcosmic, world within. There's a reason I continue to invite folks to see the comparison between the ST forum "world" as a microcosm of the "world at large." It is in these so called smaller, lesser worlds, venues and experiences, where the rubber actually hits the road. It's one thing to talk about a need for folks the world over to stand up to tyranny...but what does one do personally when faced directly with tyranny closer to home....within a family, lets say...?...and/or A circle of folks who miraculously have found each other on a forum, who all share a strong interest in very, very rare subject of interest? You wanna see more "light" in "the world" Rick? Start "here." You were warned.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2024 0:33:45 GMT
Not yet, it hasn't. Close now, but not there yet. Dark powers and principalities who have long controlled the earth are being dealt with but their grip on the affairs of man/world run deep and wide via their minions and control of money. They are powerful but we are more so. Much work has already been done but there is more to do. The earth is fast approaching a near-death experience in more ways than one but the Light will prevail in the end. And yes, earth is consciousness and so is everyone else. Soon everyone will know that, even figs. Hope everyone is prepared. You're mixing contexts dude. I've never challenged the pointer that says "All is Consciousness." That's just what you hear as you mind reacts in fear to what it perceives to be a threat to it's most sacred and mostly dearly held beliefs/ideas/concepts. You have long said anyone stating that they know for absolute certainty that there are other perceivers is nutso. Here E. states that others are conscious therefore are perceivers, which you deny, right?
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Post by Figgles on Jul 5, 2024 3:46:40 GMT
You're mixing contexts dude. I've never challenged the pointer that says "All is Consciousness." That's just what you hear as you mind reacts in fear to what it perceives to be a threat to it's most sacred and mostly dearly held beliefs/ideas/concepts. You have long said anyone stating that they know for absolute certainty that there are other perceivers is nutso. Here E. states that others are conscious therefore are perceivers, which you deny, right? THIS is what he said: "...earth is consciousness and so is everyone else." That precise mistaking of that pointer as something it is not, has been the issue from the get-go; mind conceptualizing the pointer "It's all Consciousness," to conclude that that equals Absolute, certain knowing that appearing other people are discrete, conscious, perceivers/experiencers. The entirety of what appears is Consciousness. That's Truth. But that does not equal all apparent things are therefore, conscious, perceiving entities. There is a huge leap of mind involved there to arrive at that.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 5, 2024 3:48:48 GMT
You're mixing contexts dude. I've never challenged the pointer that says "All is Consciousness." That's just what you hear as you mind reacts in fear to what it perceives to be a threat to it's most sacred and mostly dearly held beliefs/ideas/concepts. You have long said anyone stating that they know for absolute certainty that there are other perceivers is nutso. Here E. states that others are conscious therefore are perceivers, which you deny, right? And fwiw, I've never used that term "Nutso" to name-call those who erroneously believe they possess Absolute, realized knowledge that other perceivers exist. "Delusional/deluded/still asleep/unawakened" would be my chosen terminology.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 5, 2024 3:49:57 GMT
Rick, have you ever considered that "the light prevailing" starts at home, with you? It is so important right now for all of us to see this; Clean up your own back yard first before you start pointing to a "world out there," that is evil/flawed/dark. Every instant you are offered an opportunity to allow "the light to prevail." Do you think you're doing that when you lash out to name-call and denigrate, just because someone dares to challenge a particular idea/belief of yours? The larger "world in peril...dark and evil, en masse" idea, often serves as a means to gloss over the smaller, microcosmic, world within. There's a reason I continue to invite folks to see the comparison between the ST forum "world" as a microcosm of the "world at large." It is in these so called smaller, lesser worlds, venues and experiences, where the rubber actually hits the road. It's one thing to talk about a need for folks the world over to stand up to tyranny...but what does one do personally when faced directly with tyranny closer to home....within a family, lets say...?...and/or A circle of folks who miraculously have found each other on a forum, who all share a strong interest in very, very rare subject of interest? You wanna see more "light" in "the world" Rick? Start "here." You were warned. You too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2024 10:43:28 GMT
You have long said anyone stating that they know for absolute certainty that there are other perceivers is nutso. Here E. states that others are conscious therefore are perceivers, which you deny, right? THIS is what he said: "...earth is consciousness and so is everyone else." That precise mistaking of that pointer as something it is not, has been the issue from the get-go; mind conceptualizing the pointer "It's all Consciousness," to conclude that that equals Absolute, certain knowing that appearing other people are discrete, conscious, perceivers/experiencers. The entirety of what appears is Consciousness. That's Truth. But that does not equal all apparent things are therefore, conscious, perceiving entities. There is a huge leap of mind involved there to arrive at that. Nice try.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 5, 2024 17:44:31 GMT
THIS is what he said: "...earth is consciousness and so is everyone else." That precise mistaking of that pointer as something it is not, has been the issue from the get-go; mind conceptualizing the pointer "It's all Consciousness," to conclude that that equals Absolute, certain knowing that appearing other people are discrete, conscious, perceivers/experiencers. The entirety of what appears is Consciousness. That's Truth. But that does not equal all apparent things are therefore, conscious, perceiving entities. There is a huge leap of mind involved there to arrive at that. Nice try. There was no 'trying' involved. It's likely obvious to even those with a mere conceptual grasp that those two assertions are not saying the same thing. What does take some effort, is making the leap from 'people and the earth are all Consciousness' to "others are conscious, therefore, it is known for Absolute certain that others are perceivers." That leap can only be made if "Consciousness" gets conceptualized as a "something" that has the property/quality of "being conscious." That's the invoking of two-ness/duality.
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