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Post by Figgles on Jan 17, 2023 20:39:53 GMT
Another one here where she seems to be conflating the denigration of the appearing body, with seeing the body as a temporal, ephemeral appearance, absent it's own inherent existence.
She really does seem to be positing the body/person as a doer....an existent entity...as being a Source of creation/causation....which is completely different from what her older videos say.
Her followers are just lapping it up too.....of course the seeker loves to hear that he, as a person/body/mind is not a limited appearance and instead, he has superpowers to control outcomes and live a life that defies all temporal limitation. It's a nonsense. She's selling LOA again.
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Post by Figgles on Jan 17, 2023 20:45:10 GMT
A very different message here from two years ago: "All the trouble stems from personhood...from believing we have control."
Whereas now, she is empowering the person, prescribing a personal 'taking of control.'
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Post by Figgles on Jan 17, 2023 21:12:56 GMT
Another older one...she says...."...you must know your True stance as formless Awareness."
In her present videos, she seems to be saying your True stance is as as a body/mind/person and you know Truth via your personal feelings...
While it's True, in awakening and initially realizing your most 'fundamental stance as formless awareness,' DOES impact the experiential, including feelings....opening of heart, etc, those are also mere appearances arising within formless Awareness and not to be conflated with that abiding....unchanging....unwavering ground which is primordial to all else that appears, that of course 'you are' but in a way that is absent identification with 'that appearance.'
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Post by Figgles on Jan 17, 2023 21:33:54 GMT
Anna Brown: "we've been deeply conditioned to live in a linear fashion, of future destination, goals and trophies of success. Success is a concept. What is success? Running around frantically, trying to figure out who you are by adding things onto you, which are foreign to your origin.....systems appear in you but you are not a system.....
...this energy is neutral, it doesn't give a shit about success, it doesn't give a shit about failure, to what is, it's the same..there is no better or worse...the ME is so gung-ho on a better me...a better this...a better life, a better me, it's always about 'better,' which is duality...better means there's another reality..."
I suspect she is now catering more to the seeking mind as she is offering one on one sessions on her website for a fee...likely found that there's not many lining up to hear about the futility of seeking.....the illusive nature of the separate person they think they are...& really, I get that....I think Siftingtotruth encountered a similar dilemma in his attempts to sell his course that promises to wake seekers up...
Who's gonna pay a lot of money when the teacher is telling them there are no guarantees....that there is no "someone" who CAN wake up...? It's kind of the nature of the 'selling Nonduality' beast to have to resort to pandering to mind, making concessions to mind, at least somewhat. It'd be cool though if they would just say so, at least once in a while...keep it real.
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Post by Esponja on Jan 17, 2023 23:10:05 GMT
I’ve been listening to Anna Brown lately and wondering what’s going on. She seems to be implying control. Nothing wrong with it of course but there’s so much confusion out there. First Jac now Anna? 🤔. Whoah...yeah, I'll say! I just watched her most recent video: She's basically telling seekers to observe their feelings...their body's resonance or lack thereof with a particular message and to use that as a litmus test for Truth...which as we know, is BS. The seeker absolutely loves the message that it is a separate entity that has complete and total control over manifestations....and hates the message that ultimately, the person is but an appearance only....absent it's own inherent existence, thus, ultimately, not doing, causing, perceiving or experiencing anything per se.....that all doings, all experience is ultimately, arising to no one. I know she initially came to Nonduality from an LOA background....sounds as though her locus of seeing might be shifting somewhat back into the dream....? I really am seeing evidence these days that it apparently does happen. And this is it. My work is totally dream stuff but I know it, I don’t profess to teach Truth and then mix it up. I may slip clarity into my posts or my 1:1s but I allow the disillusion and Anna’s video fits right in there for that. Wonderful message for spiritual peeps, why not? Quite Abraham in fact, but the change back suprised the hell out of me. Both vids the same, then I had to question it and look and came to the conclusion that I have to trust my seeing. Sorry Anna, we all love you, but woahh there with implying there’s a controller who can call in whatever they want. |
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Post by Esponja on Jan 17, 2023 23:10:56 GMT
Another one here where she seems to be conflating the denigration of the appearing body, with seeing the body as a temporal, ephemeral appearance, absent it's own inherent existence. She really does seem to be positing the body/person as a doer....an existent entity...as being a Source of creation/causation....which is completely different from what her older videos say. Her followers are just lapping it up too.....of course the seeker loves to hear that he, as a person/body/mind is not a limited appearance and instead, he has superpowers to control outcomes and live a life that defies all temporal limitation. It's a nonsense. She's selling LOA again. Yep thiswas the other one! I loved both but also had to go huh?  Say waaat?! |
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Post by Esponja on Jan 17, 2023 23:23:52 GMT
Another older one...she says...."...you must know your True stance as formless Awareness." In her present videos, she seems to be saying your True stance is as as a body/mind/person and you know Truth via your personal feelings... While it's True, in awakening and initially realizing your most 'fundamental stance as formless awareness,' DOES impact the experiential, including feelings....opening of heart, etc, those are also mere appearances arising within formless Awareness and not to be conflated with that abiding....unchanging....unwavering ground which is primordial to all else that appears, that of course 'you are' but in a way that is absent identification with 'that appearance.' She’s gone all Betinho on us! Agree, no money in Truth but so many might (seem) to be on the cusp of Truth with pointings but now there’s a beautiful dangly carrot. I’ve been chasing that illusory carrot myself and it keeps turning up then every now and then it breaks off into my mouth and tells me I caught it 🤭 |
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Post by Figgles on Jan 17, 2023 23:29:27 GMT
Whoah...yeah, I'll say! I just watched her most recent video: She's basically telling seekers to observe their feelings...their body's resonance or lack thereof with a particular message and to use that as a litmus test for Truth...which as we know, is BS. The seeker absolutely loves the message that it is a separate entity that has complete and total control over manifestations....and hates the message that ultimately, the person is but an appearance only....absent it's own inherent existence, thus, ultimately, not doing, causing, perceiving or experiencing anything per se.....that all doings, all experience is ultimately, arising to no one. I know she initially came to Nonduality from an LOA background....sounds as though her locus of seeing might be shifting somewhat back into the dream....? I really am seeing evidence these days that it apparently does happen. And this is it. My work is totally dream stuff but I know it, I don’t profess to teach Truth and then mix it up. I may slip clarity into my posts or my 1:1s but I allow the disillusion and Anna’s video fits right in there for that. Wonderful message for spiritual peeps, why not? Quite Abraham in fact, but the change back suprised the hell out of me. Both vids the same, then I had to question it and look and came to the conclusion that I have to trust my seeing. Sorry Anna, we all love you, but woahh there with implying there’s a controller who can call in whatever they want. Agree with all you say there...and the bolded nails it. She was someone whom in my opinion, was so good simply because she drew such a stark/uncompromising line....really made very little in the way of concessions to mind. That said....if she's changed her focus somewhat and is aware of that...so be it. It's just not really a message of Truth at this point. |
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Post by Figgles on Jan 17, 2023 23:33:52 GMT
Another one here where she seems to be conflating the denigration of the appearing body, with seeing the body as a temporal, ephemeral appearance, absent it's own inherent existence. She really does seem to be positing the body/person as a doer....an existent entity...as being a Source of creation/causation....which is completely different from what her older videos say. Her followers are just lapping it up too.....of course the seeker loves to hear that he, as a person/body/mind is not a limited appearance and instead, he has superpowers to control outcomes and live a life that defies all temporal limitation. It's a nonsense. She's selling LOA again. Yep thiswas the other one! I loved both but also had to go huh? Say waaat?! I left comments on both, essentially saying that this seemed to be a new focus for her....conceding to mind far more than she ever did before....both got deleted within minutes.   |
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Post by Esponja on Jan 18, 2023 0:03:45 GMT
And this is it. My work is totally dream stuff but I know it, I don’t profess to teach Truth and then mix it up. I may slip clarity into my posts or my 1:1s but I allow the disillusion and Anna’s video fits right in there for that. Wonderful message for spiritual peeps, why not? Quite Abraham in fact, but the change back suprised the hell out of me. Both vids the same, then I had to question it and look and came to the conclusion that I have to trust my seeing. Sorry Anna, we all love you, but woahh there with implying there’s a controller who can call in whatever they want. Agree with all you say there...and the bolded nails it. She was someone whom in my opinion, was so good simply because she drew such a stark/uncompromising line....really made very little in the way of concessions to mind. That said....if she's changed her focus somewhat and is aware of that...so be it. It's just not really a message of Truth at this point. Yes, she probably knows what’s happening, agree there. |
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