Esponja
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Post by Esponja on Jul 18, 2021 7:13:55 GMT
Remembering the meme I saw of Biden door to door knocking- don’t become a Jacovid Witness. 😂😂😂😂
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muttley
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Post by muttley on Jul 18, 2021 7:17:21 GMT
The responsible peeps took the damn shot. There is almost no viable excuse for not taking it. Here are several potential good reasons: (1) Do you know what VAERS is? If not, if this is the first time you are hearing about it, then why do you think that is? (2) None of the vax are approved by the FDA in the same sense that other vaccines have been, which involve processes that take years. The approval is on an emergency basis, with the understanding that these vax are experimental. (3) The mRNA technology is novel, in terms of deployment, and even relatively novel in terms of when it was first invented. (4) The manufacturers, distributors and administrators of the vax have been granted sweeping and unprecedented immunity from civil liabilities that might arise from the effects of taking it. (5) A significant % of reported new covid cases are among the jabbed. (6) There are credible medical professionals and scientists backed with data that claim treatment of covid with alternatives such as ivermectine is highly effective. (7) The CDC has since had to issue several warnings about potential side effects for various groups, including pregnant women, children, young people who have already had covid and adolescent males between certain ages (I think between 16-19, but might be wront). The effects in question differ among those groups.
(8) The stats on survival rate are over 99.97% or thereabouts .. why is there such attention on this cause of death that didn't prove to be even a small fraction of what was predicted, and why should someone pollute their body with a vaccine as a precaution against such a low risk?
(9) The media/tech censorship of these simple facts along with the nine new vax-billionares would suggest that the push to vaccinate everyone and the rather over-emotional characterization of the vax-hesitant including various forms of ridicule and scorn isn't motivated by an interest in public health and well being. That's not to say that everyone involved in the push is cynical - I'm sure most of them actually believe that vaxing the population is a valid public health goal. But, it would seem from these other factors that there is more than just a good intention involved. Whether those doing the jacovidian pushing are conscious of that, or not. |
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muttley
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Post by muttley on Jul 18, 2021 7:18:05 GMT
Remembering the meme I saw of Biden door to door knocking- don’t become a Jacovid Witness. 😂😂😂😂 |
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muttley
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Post by muttley on Jul 18, 2021 7:37:31 GMT
You don't have to see much media to be brainwashed by it. You just have to accept the bit you see, without balancing it with a different view of what's happening. I could show you endless data and links that would challenge your view, but I very strongly suspect that you don't want to look at any of it. I guess Fig will be happy to discuss the facts with you, for as long as you want to. I can't say I'm sad to see your thinking become so extremist, as I know you are a strong anti-Trumper and strong pro-Biden supporter, so it actually makes sense to me. Actually, I'm not being straight. It is just a little sad to see someone that has spiritual grounding take the position you've taken. I bet most sectors of the 'media is bad' crowd are dealing with their own kind of brainwashing. There's no denying that effect, no doubt. Simple, sane, adult critical thinking is, rather sadly, something in short supply, as is the self-honesty necessary for one to examine their own beliefs in any depth.
These days, however, are quite unique. The level and intensity of disinformation is such that trusting any source is a gamble -- and you have to ask, who is it that wants things this way, and why? The pre-internet media landscape was much more monolithic, closed and controlled than even now, and people got used to a brief golden age of the early web. But back then, pre-web, there was far less interest on the part of that media in shaping a common subjective narrative, with more of an interest in making attempts at objectivity.
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muttley
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Post by muttley on Jul 18, 2021 7:41:52 GMT
Fun chatting with ya.. but I've got pot plants that need tending  (** shakes head sadly **)
Hey, tell andy 'bout your fancy-mulch he might get a kick out of it. |
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muttley
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Post by muttley on Jul 18, 2021 7:56:13 GMT
No vaccine, huh? Cool, you're fired, get lost. Can't fly.. can't take a cruise.. whatever. Cool cool, serves 'em right, hehe.  heh heh .. yeah, well, the flip side to that is (... drumroll please ...). Competition.  Exclude the deplorables at the risk of your own economic health. Just go ask Woka Cola. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 8:03:55 GMT
Fun chatting with ya.. but I've got pot plants that need tending (** shakes head sadly **)
Hey, tell andy 'bout your fancy-mulch he might get a kick out of it. Mulch is fine sure, and I'm just using simple straw, but I haven't a clue how one might fancy that up But I did concoct my own super soil and I've been brewing organic aerated compost teas.. with the next batch concentrated on introducing beneficial fungi to the mix  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 8:07:53 GMT
"Due to the program's open and accessible design and its allowance of unverified reports, incomplete VAERS data is often used in false claims regarding vaccine safety. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has warned that data from VAERS is not enough to determine whether a vaccine can cause a particular adverse event."
...was the first thing I've read about VAERS
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muttley
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Post by muttley on Jul 18, 2021 8:11:28 GMT
"Due to the program's open and accessible design and its allowance of unverified reports, incomplete VAERS data is often used in false claims regarding vaccine safety. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has warned that data from VAERS is not enough to determine whether a vaccine can cause a particular adverse event." ...was the first thing I've read about VAERS Notice how that is a subjective interpretation of the use of VAERS data. Isn't it interesting that's the first thing you read?
Stick to the facts:
(1) What is VAERS?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 8:11:31 GMT
No vaccine, huh? Cool, you're fired, get lost. Can't fly.. can't take a cruise.. whatever. Cool cool, serves 'em right, hehe. heh heh .. yeah, well, the flip side to that is (... drumroll please ...). Competition. Exclude the deplorables at the risk of your own economic health. Just go ask Woka Cola. Coke was bloated to begin with. Economies adjust, we'll be fine. |
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