Andrew
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Post by Andrew on Jun 1, 2021 22:07:35 GMT
Over the years there have been many suggestions in conspiracy groups to 'stock up' and be self-sufficient. I've considered it at times, but it has always gone against my instinct. I like shopping day to day as much as I can, in fact I particularly enjoy going to a shop at the end of a day and getting the discounted food....I mean, I like the cheaper prices, but what I really like is the not-knowing what I'm going to get. I like being given stuff that I wouldn't tend to buy off the shelf, I like the sense that something 'bigger' than me is organizing my food. And in the last 10-12 years, we've moved around so much that it also hasn't made rational sense to stock up. At the beginning of the 'pandemic' last year, I did actually stock up for the first time...probably spent a few hundred pounds on filling the cupboards. I felt good about it at the time, and I think it did make life easier over the coming months, though I perhaps made the 'mistake' of buying cupboard foods that I rarely want to eat....like tinned soup. So when we moved out of the house last week, I had a load of tins to give to the local homeless shelter thing, I don't like throwing food away. Like you, I've seen the warnings about fake cyber attack and other things. I don't know, I can't read the situation. I doubt it, but maybe. A plandemic (followed by vaccines) has been warned of for as long as I have been following conspiracy stuff....I remember the Swine Flu of 2009 being talked of in conspiracy circles.....I didn't think it would ever come to pass, so I got that wrong. I guess I will make a decision in a couple of weeks about whether to stock up again. I'll see. It's a rural location, quite remote, so it might make life a bit easier. Less tinned soup this time though. I would just go with your instinct on these things, there's no right or wrong. Agree and ultimately if it went on for ages, we still might not have enough. If we have to vaccinate for food supplies what the hell can we do about it other than watch it unfold knowing our true nature. I miss the UK for the discounts. They just don’t do it here and food is so expensive where I am. My mum is great at buying a cheap christmas turkey- whilst everyone else is celebrating she’ll be at waitrose waiting on xmas eve! 😂 Stuff like that used to bother me, now I find it cute and funny. haha your story about your Mum made me smile. I sometimes go to Sainsbury's on Boxing Day morning, there's always turkeys there then, fully discounted....a couple of years ago, I picked up a full size turkey for about £3! I'm not actually a massive fan of turkey and the whole Christmas dinner thing, we usually go for an Indian on the 25th, it suits us for some reason. I spent one Christmas in Australia, I was in Byron Bay at a backpackers, it was great. Now I think about it, it may well have been that Xmas that changed my view of how to celebrate in the UK. |
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Andrew
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Post by Andrew on Jun 1, 2021 22:07:57 GMT
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Post by Figgles on Jun 1, 2021 23:29:11 GMT
Yup. It's just the nature of the story. Compelling as hell, even when awake to it 'as a story.'  Those are key words; "getting carried away" and "needing" to plan. Considering how recent your awakening is, I'm continually impressed with how clearly and quickly you see those 'fine lines' between merely an interest in the story, a natural moving forward with a plan, vs. the loss of conscious awareness that means lying fully in the clutches of mind, with all it's incessant worries.....needs.....plans to protect itself. While the line between basic engagement with the dream vs. falling back in, may indeed seem to be, and is oft experienced as 'fine,' we're literally talking a shift from one place of seeing to another. Then my mind comes in and says ‘you haven’t woken up’’ 😂 An important reminder is that 'being awake' is always a present moment thing and not some time-bound state. It's true that it does get talked about that way.....there's the present moment memory of the moment of waking up and memories of experience in between and then of course, usually hand in hand with that, ideas about going forward into the future, 'being awake,' but if you look closely, wakefulness/SR is either here and now or not at all. That quote of Niz's, relayed by Adyashanti really exemplifies this; "I remember someone asking one of my favorite Indian sage--Nisargadatta Maharaj--whether the egoic personality ever arose in him. He said, very casually, "Of course it does, but I see at once that it is illusion and I discard it." This was a wonderful to hear--that even someone of the spiritual stature of Nisargadatta was saying that there is always a possibility that an old conditioned tendency can arise. He simply recognized it as illusory at the moment of its arising, and in that seeing, he cast it aside. It dissolved." --Adyashanti When looked at like that, you could say that the realization/seeing through of illusion happens every present moment in SR/wakefulness. |
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Post by Figgles on Jun 1, 2021 23:30:41 GMT
Amazing!! ...and I am hearing that msm didn't cover it at all?  |
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Post by muttley on Jun 2, 2021 5:06:57 GMT
Yup. It's just the nature of the story. Compelling as hell, even when awake to it 'as a story.' Those are key words; "getting carried away" and "needing" to plan. Considering how recent your awakening is, I'm continually impressed with how clearly and quickly you see those 'fine lines' between merely an interest in the story, a natural moving forward with a plan, vs. the loss of conscious awareness that means lying fully in the clutches of mind, with all it's incessant worries.....needs.....plans to protect itself. While the line between basic engagement with the dream vs. falling back in, may indeed seem to be, and is oft experienced as 'fine,' we're literally talking a shift from one place of seeing to another. Then my mind comes in and says ‘you haven’t woken up’’ 😂 So, you see this shadow dance for what it is now then. .. whether there's anything left for you to realize beyond this is ultimately your own call. ZD used a great metaphor yesterday: when you stub your toe, you don't need a theory or anyone else to tell you that you've stubbed your toe, there's no uncertainty involved.  |
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Post by Esponja on Jun 2, 2021 5:08:59 GMT
Then my mind comes in and says ‘you haven’t woken up’’ 😂 So, you see this shadow dance for what it is now then. .. whether there's anything left for you to realize beyond this is ultimately your own call. ZD used a great metaphor yesterday: when you stub your toe, you don't need a theory or anyone else to tell you that you've stubbed your toe, there's no uncertainty involved. Yes seen. 🤗 |
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