Post by Figgles on Apr 22, 2021 20:07:09 GMT
I just decided after reading this exchange that from now on, I will use the term "unknowing" or "absence of knowledge" vs. "not knowing," as it's clear that term lends itself to a propensity for conceptualizing what is actually a substraction/seeing through of knowledge, therefore, 'an absence,' vs. the holding to an idea that says "I do not know" relative to a particular existential question that is still active.
When the sages use the term 'not knowing,' they are not referencing a mental stance or state of ideation, they are referencing an absence of knowledge relative to a particular question that is no longer active because it's been realized as misconceived.
That's really the only way to 'unknowing...absence of knowledge' relative to all appearances....the very existential questions relative to appearance must be seen as misconceived. The question itself gets seen through....then, of course, the certain knowledge relative to question, gets seen through, collapses, and it's wake, there's now an absence of knowledge where previously there was the presence thereof.
Gopal: yes, accepting the not-knowing will not allow us to seek further.
Muttley: Weeeeelll .. thing is that the seeking will continue - consciously or otherwise - for as long as there's a question. The state of glorious confusion allows for not-knowing, that there is nothing to do, noone to do it, nowhere to go, and no answer, but that there is a potential end to it.
Muttley: Weeeeelll .. thing is that the seeking will continue - consciously or otherwise - for as long as there's a question. The state of glorious confusion allows for not-knowing, that there is nothing to do, noone to do it, nowhere to go, and no answer, but that there is a potential end to it.
When the sages use the term 'not knowing,' they are not referencing a mental stance or state of ideation, they are referencing an absence of knowledge relative to a particular question that is no longer active because it's been realized as misconceived.
That's really the only way to 'unknowing...absence of knowledge' relative to all appearances....the very existential questions relative to appearance must be seen as misconceived. The question itself gets seen through....then, of course, the certain knowledge relative to question, gets seen through, collapses, and it's wake, there's now an absence of knowledge where previously there was the presence thereof.