Thought Is Not The Enemy

What else IS the delusion/illusion of "separation" if not an erroneous conceptual idea...a mistake of mind?

You yourself have acknowledged that Oneness is realized in SR, no?....and that separation is no longer in play, haven't you? So what IS that previous sense of separation that was in play and that was obscuring Oneness?

You argue vehemently that separation is not a conceptual idea, but you fail to answer me when I ask you, "what IS separation"? It seems you believe it's actual and not merely an erroneous imagining?




So long as you are mistaking yourself to be a separate someone, existent in a world of separate, inherently existent things, then yes, there is delusion in play. And yes, that mistake of mind is entirely conceptual. It's the equivalent of mistaking the rope for a snake.

Can you see that that mistake, thinking that a rope is a snake is conceptual/ideation/thought based?

And once the snake has been seen through, has been seen to really, not be there at all, there is no doubt at all about the rope. (The analogy breaks down, is imperfect because both imagined snake and rope are conceptual/experiential/in the story, whereas, Oneness that shines through obviously once imagined separation is seen through, is a seeing from beyond/prior to experience...prior to any story content.




You're forgetting the part about the 'seeing from beyond' that illuminates the delusional imagining/idea as false. As I keep saying, SR is not merely a switching out of one idea for another. There must be a shift in locus of seeing. It's only in that shift, that separation....the SVP gets illuminated as false....in that it's seen that there never really was separation....never was an SVP, separation was erroneously imagined only.




It's more though than just the absence of that thought pattern/sense/mistake of mind, if there is SR, the place from which seeing is happening from, has shifted from 'within the dream,' seemingly through eyes of a separate person, to beyond.

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That's a really good seeker's question actually.

I explained that above...but will elaborate; The difference is that the locus of seeing shifts in SR...and that's why the false idea of separation is no longer in play.

Not only is the erroneous structure, pattern of ideation, (that = the false sense of separation), gone in SR, the very locus of seeing, where it previously seemed as though the ground of all seeing was the separate person, has now shifted to beyond. The erroneous sense of seeing through and from the limited eyes of a bounded, existent body/mind, is no longer.

And there are indeed self help practices and processes that promise to help with that, but ultimately, what's required for that incessant running commentary/judgment/self-referential mentation to cease, is a seeing through of the one who is imagined to be at the center of it all....the 'thinker.' (also known as the SVP...separate entity).