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Post by muttley on Mar 20, 2021 0:47:43 GMT
I recall buying Now at a Barnes&Noble. The clerk was rather contemptuous and said something like "yes, here are 'New Earth', Wayne Dyer and Chopra etc." Didn't think anything of it at the time. Didn't even know about the Oprah connection until months and months later. I'd found him by googling the phrase "I stopped listening to the voice in my head" -- which is .. another story.  Him, Niz, Adya, Maharshi, Spira, etc (even Mckenna) ... their pointing is all different, all unique, but it's soooooo obvious they're all pointing .. the "same". In 2005 (I think), I was at a pub in South London with a friend, and we got talking to a homeless guy, we were talking for a while. At one point, he told us about a time he had been begging in central London and a famous television actor walked by. He asked the actor for some cash, but instead, the actor insisted that the homeless guy accompany him to a bookshop around the corner, so that he could buy him a book.... As the story unfolded, and he got to the point about the bookshop, I suddenly knew with EVERY fibre of my being what book the actor was going to buy the homeless guy.....and I guess you know too.... Anyway, homeless guy liked TPON. I don't think he was suddenly enlightened or whatever through reading it, but there was definitely something in it for him. Random story, just my way of saying hello to you all perhaps. That's a delightful story, thanks andy.  I'd still like to punch that actor right in the fucking face though. |
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Post by muttley on Mar 20, 2021 0:48:50 GMT
In 2005 (I think), I was at a pub in South London with a friend, and we got talking to a homeless guy, we were talking for a while. At one point, he told us about a time he had been begging in central London and a famous television actor walked by. He asked the actor for some cash, but instead, the actor insisted that the homeless guy accompany him to a bookshop around the corner, so that he could buy him a book.... As the story unfolded, and he got to the point about the bookshop, I suddenly knew with EVERY fibre of my being what book the actor was going to buy the homeless guy.....and I guess you know too.... Anyway, homeless guy liked TPON. I don't think he was suddenly enlightened or whatever through reading it, but there was definitely something in it for him. Random story, just my way of saying hello to you all perhaps. Cool story. We took a homeless man to a nightclub last week (don’t ask!)  |
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Post by muttley on Mar 20, 2021 5:22:34 GMT
I recall buying Now at a Barnes&Noble. The clerk was rather contemptuous and said something like "yes, here are 'New Earth', Wayne Dyer and Chopra etc." Didn't think anything of it at the time. Didn't even know about the Oprah connection until months and months later. I'd found him by googling the phrase "I stopped listening to the voice in my head" -- which is .. another story. Him, Niz, Adya, Maharshi, Spira, etc (even Mckenna) ... their pointing is all different, all unique, but it's soooooo obvious they're all pointing .. the "same". In 2005 (I think), I was at a pub in South London with a friend, and we got talking to a homeless guy, we were talking for a while. At one point, he told us about a time he had been begging in central London and a famous television actor walked by. He asked the actor for some cash, but instead, the actor insisted that the homeless guy accompany him to a bookshop around the corner, so that he could buy him a book.... As the story unfolded, and he got to the point about the bookshop, I suddenly knew with EVERY fibre of my being what book the actor was going to buy the homeless guy.....and I guess you know too.... Anyway, homeless guy liked TPON. I don't think he was suddenly enlightened or whatever through reading it, but there was definitely something in it for him. Random story, just my way of saying hello to you all perhaps. .. unless the actor bought the guy a sandwich too. Then he'd be ok. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 8:06:58 GMT
In 2005 (I think), I was at a pub in South London with a friend, and we got talking to a homeless guy, we were talking for a while. At one point, he told us about a time he had been begging in central London and a famous television actor walked by. He asked the actor for some cash, but instead, the actor insisted that the homeless guy accompany him to a bookshop around the corner, so that he could buy him a book.... As the story unfolded, and he got to the point about the bookshop, I suddenly knew with EVERY fibre of my being what book the actor was going to buy the homeless guy.....and I guess you know too.... Anyway, homeless guy liked TPON. I don't think he was suddenly enlightened or whatever through reading it, but there was definitely something in it for him. Random story, just my way of saying hello to you all perhaps. .. unless the actor bought the guy a sandwich too. Then he'd be ok. I'd take a sandwich over a goddamm book any fucking day. |
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Post by muttley on Mar 20, 2021 19:13:06 GMT
.. unless the actor bought the guy a sandwich too. Then he'd be ok. I'd take a sandwich over a goddamm book any fucking day. Fuckin'A right you would. And I suspect that we're confirming Andy's bias in that notion here. |
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Post by Figgles on Mar 22, 2021 23:13:58 GMT
All the talk of pain body. Seems to keep you trapped in Maya. There is no pain body. You are born again in each moment..NOW. Very much agree. That bit never made sense to me...what the hell is a 'pain body'? ....I had to really dig deep to even fathom what he was referencing. But regardless, such a 'thing' would necessarily mean heavy identification with form...the appearing body.....arising bodily senses....all of which gets seen through in awakening. |
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Post by amoeba on Oct 1, 2021 6:46:50 GMT
All the talk of pain body. Seems to keep you trapped in Maya. There is no pain body. You are born again in each moment..NOW. Very much agree. That bit never made sense to me. ..what the hell is a 'pain body'? ....I had to really dig deep to even fathom what he was referencing. But regardless, such a 'thing' would necessarily mean heavy identification with form...the appearing body.....arising bodily senses....all of which gets seen through in awakening. There be Realization of ones physical body
as well as Realisation of ones mental-faculty, the two not connected.
NOT being a follower of the writer mentioned, my speculation be that he may have read science-papers
which say something like,
'We all have many types of cells,
they each being allotted a different purpose,'
he then adopting this idea with regards to our bodies Memory-Cells
that he could earn him a buck from, he suffering depression.
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Post by Figgles on Oct 1, 2021 18:45:08 GMT
There be Realization of ones physical body
as well as Realisation of ones mental-faculty,the two not connected. NOT being a follower of the writer mentioned,my speculation be that he may have read science-papers which say something like, 'We all have many types of cells, they each being allotted a different purpose,' he then adopting this idea with regards to our bodies Memory-Cells that he could earn him a buck from, he suffering depression. "Realization" references a seeing through that renders both of those (physical body, mental-faculty) as arisings within the dream...appearance only. So in that sense, the 'pain body' Tolle speaks of, is, at best, an appearance only, at worst, an erroneous imagining/illusion. |
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Post by Esponja on Oct 1, 2021 19:43:10 GMT
There be Realization of ones physical body
as well as Realisation of ones mental-faculty,the two not connected. NOT being a follower of the writer mentioned,my speculation be that he may have read science-papers which say something like, 'We all have many types of cells, they each being allotted a different purpose,' he then adopting this idea with regards to our bodies Memory-Cells that he could earn him a buck from, he suffering depression. "Realization" references a seeing through that renders both of those (physical body, mental-faculty) as arisings within the dream...appearance only. So in that sense, the 'pain body' Tolle speaks of, is, at best, an appearance only, at worst, an erroneous imagining/illusion. I guess I had an expectation running that ‘Tolle’ was self-realized and then an expectation of how he should present this knowing. Same expectation around Spira not choosing a vaccine only event. We put these teachers on pedalstalls but that’s our ‘stuff’. They are just expressing as who they are. |
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Post by Figgles on Oct 1, 2021 22:24:45 GMT
"Realization" references a seeing through that renders both of those (physical body, mental-faculty) as arisings within the dream...appearance only. So in that sense, the 'pain body' Tolle speaks of, is, at best, an appearance only, at worst, an erroneous imagining/illusion. I guess I had an expectation running that ‘Tolle’ was self-realized and then an expectation of how he should present this knowing. Same expectation around Spira not choosing a vaccine only event. We put these teachers on pedalstalls but that’s our ‘stuff’. They are just expressing as who they are. Agreed. And by 'our stuff,' that does not necessarily mean something that's problematic or that has to go....our expectations about the behaviors of supposed awakened folks, also just expressions associated with the character. I must admit, I DO have a strong expectation that someone who is SR, is also going to be wide-awake to the consensus trance....and of course, I have all sorts of ideas as to what that means in terms of beliefs & behaviors on their part. So long as there's some wiggle room for 'aberrations' in our story, for exceptions to the rule, (to ALL apparent rules!) no problemo. |
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Him, Niz, Adya, Maharshi, Spira, etc (even Mckenna) ... their pointing is all different, all unique, but it's soooooo obvious they're all pointing .. the "same".
I'd still like to punch that actor right in the fucking face though. 
