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Post by Andrew on Nov 12, 2020 11:09:22 GMT
The call for unity seems absurd, just as here....the call for unity over Brexit was absurd. Here in the UK, there has actually been an interesting unity this year between most on the right, and some on the left....in their protests against what they see as totalitarian measures. But now there is a new divide between those protesting those measures, and those that want the measures. Nevertheless, I see the change in the nature of the divide as a slightly positive thing. I guess people have always been a slave to their beliefs, resistant to change, and preferring to stick with confirmation biases. I think I read a while back that we are actually biologically hardwired to be a bit resistant to change, but perception is everything, so if our consistently losing team suddenly starts winning, we probably cope a little bit better with that change  The Trump/Biden situation isn't just an American issue, people all over the world have a preference, because it's a global society. Jenn has old (republican) school friends on her facebook timeline, and she has been appalled at the hatred and violence that she sees among some of them. There's no doubt that some of the Trump supporters are nasty and not that bright. Then again, I've just had a conversation on twitter with someone with the tagline 'endchildpoverty' who was actually wishing stupid 'Trump' supporters were dead. So, the nastiness is definitely on both sides. The right are intolerant, but the left are absolutely intolerant and hypocritical in their 'tolerance'. 'Tolerance' is just a pretty bad concept at this point. But I believe that America...and the world....is at a crossroads. Change is inevitable, there's no way back. On the one path, we have transhumanism - integrated virtual reality, deep fakes, digital health passports, an AI hive mind. This, for me, is undoubtedly the path that progressives (and Biden) are walking. As a spiritual person. I believe in the value of technology, but not at the price of sovereignty. I believe we have a right to being responsible for our own internal world of thoughts, feelings and states. It's not for any other person or group to deliberately interfere or intervene with anyone else's internal world (unless given permission). So even though I'm a leftie in that I believe strongly in the power of community and co-operation, my spirituality also embraces conservatism/libertarianism. I cannot support transhumanism. What was once a bunch of laughable conspiracy theories is now OPENLY discussed in our media. I have tons of examples. The consequence of supporting Biden right now is about SO much more than just 'getting rid of the obnoxious and nasty orange man'. Trump is no hero, but he's PERHAPS a slight bastion of defence against transhumanism. If he turns out to win, you really don't have to be too disappointed. |
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Post by Andrew on Nov 12, 2020 11:29:02 GMT
Is it the progressives censoring proboards, or is it the conservatives?
We all know the answer, right?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 11:41:18 GMT
Is it the progressives censoring proboards, or is it the conservatives? We all know the answer, right? Lawyers |
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Post by Andrew on Nov 12, 2020 11:53:27 GMT
The final enemy of transhumanism is spirituality, because what does spirituality recommend? To look within. To act like a sovereign being by withdrawing attention from the apparent external world, and look at apparent internal processes. To take apparent responsibility for one's beliefs and emotions and inner states. To consciously move our attention thereby participating in creative processes. This political war is part of a spiritual war, and that's really why we are discussing it here (and even on spiritualteachers it is discussed). The days are gone when spiritual folks get to have their quiet fun little corner of exploration and use it to detach from (and chuckle at) the world's silliness. This is where the rubber meets the road right now. The question we are really discussing is...are Trump's republicans more aligned to the facilitation of spiritual unfolding, or Biden's Dems? For me, the attempts at censorship gives us a clue We had some fun in the old days in our quiet little corner though...the luxury of endless spiritual chit chat and arguing I'll probably withdraw from the conversation soon, but I've appreciated it. I don't really get to talk like this with friends or on other media. |
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Post by Andrew on Nov 12, 2020 11:54:43 GMT
Is it the progressives censoring proboards, or is it the conservatives? We all know the answer, right? Lawyers Progressive globalist lawyers. You know the truth of this. The censorship here (and elsewhere) ain't nothing to do with Trump (or Putin!) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 12:01:07 GMT
Progressive globalist lawyers. You know the truth of this. The censorship here (and elsewhere) ain't nothing to do with Trump (or Putin!) Even if true, which it almost certainly isn't, why would it matter? |
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Post by Andrew on Nov 12, 2020 12:07:29 GMT
Progressive globalist lawyers. You know the truth of this. The censorship here (and elsewhere) ain't nothing to do with Trump (or Putin!) Even if true, which it almost certainly isn't, why would it matter? I'm very sure it's true, and it's very well documented. I'm slightly lost for words as to how to explain why it matters that we are free to have these conversations. We are not a threat to humanity. We are among the most harmless people on the planet. Even our political opinions and conversations about worldly stuff, have a spiritual leaning. Spiritual sovereignty is the enemy of transhumanism and technocratic solutions to problems. |
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Post by Andrew on Nov 12, 2020 12:14:25 GMT
In every day worldly terms, the right to free speech matters.
That right has been eroded in recent times, and the capacity to express that right, is being strongly manipulated (by the progressive left).
In the end, what is spiritual, and therefore what is true, will prevail, because the tighter the grip of control, the more our truest desires seek to burst free.
(Eckhart Tolle speaks pretty well on that)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 12:16:25 GMT
There's nothing unusual about talking politics, all of our lives are directly impacted by the choices our elected leaders make, and the ones we elect reflect the mood of the country, so we usually end up getting what we deserve.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 12:29:41 GMT
In every day worldly terms, the right to free speech matters. That right has been eroded in recent times, and the capacity to express that right, is being strongly manipulated (by the progressive left). In the end, what is spiritual, and therefore what is true, will prevail, because the tighter the grip of control, the more our truest desires seek to burst free. (Eckhart Tolle speaks pretty well on that) Well other than moderators my free speech has been unaffected so why should I care? And if platforms don't want to host your content, fine, use another. |
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