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Mar 20, 2020 2:00:08 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 2:00:08 GMT
linkA fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data By John P.A. Ioannidis March 17, 2020
The data collected so far on how many people are infected and how the epidemic is evolving are utterly unreliable. Given the limited testing to date, some deaths and probably the vast majority of infections due to SARS-CoV-2 are being missed. We don’t know if we are failing to capture infections by a factor of three or 300. Projecting the Diamond Princess mortality rate onto the age structure of the U.S. population, the death rate among people infected with Covid-19 would be 0.125%. But since this estimate is based on extremely thin data — there were just seven deaths among the 700 infected passengers and crew — the real death rate could stretch from five times lower (0.025%) to five times higher (0.625%). It is also possible that some of the passengers who were infected might die later, and that tourists may have different frequencies of chronic diseases — a risk factor for worse outcomes with SARS-CoV-2 infection — than the general population. Adding these extra sources of uncertainty, reasonable estimates for the case fatality ratio in the general U.S. population vary from 0.05% to 1%. That huge range markedly affects how severe the pandemic is and what should be done. A population-wide case fatality rate of 0.05% is lower than seasonal influenza. If that is the true rate, locking down the world with potentially tremendous social and financial consequences may be totally irrational. It’s like an elephant being attacked by a house cat. Frustrated and trying to avoid the cat, the elephant accidentally jumps off a cliff and dies. Could the Covid-19 case fatality rate be that low? No, some say, pointing to the high rate in elderly people. However, even some so-called mild or common-cold-type coronaviruses that have been known for decades can have case fatality rates as high as 8% when they infect elderly people in nursing homes. In fact, such “mild” coronaviruses infect tens of millions of people every year, and account for 3% to 11% of those hospitalized in the U.S. with lower respiratory infections each winter. Yeah, somethings kinda stinky again in Washington D.C.... another government end-around/smash and grab like in 2008. |
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Mar 20, 2020 3:21:48 GMT
Post by krsnaraja on Mar 20, 2020 3:21:48 GMT
 The Crown (Corona) of Thorns The crown of thorns vividly symbolized the curse of sin being placed on Jesus’s head. It takes us back to Genesis, reminding us of why Jesus went to the cross, to take the penalty for sin on our behalf. Matthew 27:29 (NIV) 29 and then twisted together a crown of thorns and set it on his head. They put a staff in his right hand. Then they knelt in front of him and mocked him. “Hail, king of the Jews!” they said. |
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Mar 20, 2020 3:39:19 GMT
Post by Figgles on Mar 20, 2020 3:39:19 GMT
linkA fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data By John P.A. Ioannidis March 17, 2020
The data collected so far on how many people are infected and how the epidemic is evolving are utterly unreliable. Given the limited testing to date, some deaths and probably the vast majority of infections due to SARS-CoV-2 are being missed. We don’t know if we are failing to capture infections by a factor of three or 300. Projecting the Diamond Princess mortality rate onto the age structure of the U.S. population, the death rate among people infected with Covid-19 would be 0.125%. But since this estimate is based on extremely thin data — there were just seven deaths among the 700 infected passengers and crew — the real death rate could stretch from five times lower (0.025%) to five times higher (0.625%). It is also possible that some of the passengers who were infected might die later, and that tourists may have different frequencies of chronic diseases — a risk factor for worse outcomes with SARS-CoV-2 infection — than the general population. Adding these extra sources of uncertainty, reasonable estimates for the case fatality ratio in the general U.S. population vary from 0.05% to 1%. That huge range markedly affects how severe the pandemic is and what should be done. A population-wide case fatality rate of 0.05% is lower than seasonal influenza. If that is the true rate, locking down the world with potentially tremendous social and financial consequences may be totally irrational. It’s like an elephant being attacked by a house cat. Frustrated and trying to avoid the cat, the elephant accidentally jumps off a cliff and dies. Could the Covid-19 case fatality rate be that low? No, some say, pointing to the high rate in elderly people. However, even some so-called mild or common-cold-type coronaviruses that have been known for decades can have case fatality rates as high as 8% when they infect elderly people in nursing homes. In fact, such “mild” coronaviruses infect tens of millions of people every year, and account for 3% to 11% of those hospitalized in the U.S. with lower respiratory infections each winter. Yeah, somethings kinda stinky again in Washington D.C.... another government end-around/smash and grab like in 2008. It's gonna be interesting to sit & watch how it all unfolds....and lord knows, there 'aint much else to do.  (Hubby came home stunned today....clubs in hand....the golf dome is closed down til mid April  ) |
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Mar 20, 2020 3:41:34 GMT
Post by Figgles on Mar 20, 2020 3:41:34 GMT
View AttachmentThe Crown (Corona) of Thorns The crown of thorns vividly symbolized the curse of sin being placed on Jesus’s head. It takes us back to Genesis, reminding us of why Jesus went to the cross, to take the penalty for sin on our behalf. Matthew 27:29 (NIV) 29 and then twisted together a crown of thorns and set it on his head. They put a staff in his right hand. Then they knelt in front of him and mocked him. “Hail, king of the Jews!” they said. So...you figure this Corona virus business is Christ's revenge? |
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Mar 20, 2020 4:41:05 GMT
Post by Enigma on Mar 20, 2020 4:41:05 GMT
The Crown (Corona) of Thorns The crown of thorns vividly symbolized the curse of sin being placed on Jesus’s head. It takes us back to Genesis, reminding us of why Jesus went to the cross, to take the penalty for sin on our behalf. Matthew 27:29 (NIV) 29 and then twisted together a crown of thorns and set it on his head. They put a staff in his right hand. Then they knelt in front of him and mocked him. “Hail, king of the Jews!” they said. So...you figure this Corona virus business is Christ's revenge? Okay, that's it. No more Christmas birthday cards for him.  |
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Mar 20, 2020 5:23:27 GMT
Post by krsnaraja on Mar 20, 2020 5:23:27 GMT
The Crown (Corona) of Thorns The crown of thorns vividly symbolized the curse of sin being placed on Jesus’s head. It takes us back to Genesis, reminding us of why Jesus went to the cross, to take the penalty for sin on our behalf. Matthew 27:29 (NIV) 29 and then twisted together a crown of thorns and set it on his head. They put a staff in his right hand. Then they knelt in front of him and mocked him. “Hail, king of the Jews!” they said. So...you figure this Corona virus business is Christ's revenge? Christ is telling everyone to do Jivanmukta. Now is the time to practice Kriya yoga. Just like what the Lord did at Mt Calvary. |
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Mar 20, 2020 7:47:17 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 7:47:17 GMT
So...you figure this Corona virus business is Christ's revenge? Christ is telling everyone to do Jivanmukta. Now is the time to practice Kriya yoga. Just like what the Lord did at Mt Calvary. Nonsense after Nonsense. Stupidity after Stupidity! English words are not enough to explain your nonsense! |
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Mar 20, 2020 9:06:01 GMT
Post by krsnaraja on Mar 20, 2020 9:06:01 GMT
Christ is telling everyone to do Jivanmukta. Now is the time to practice Kriya yoga. Just like what the Lord did at Mt Calvary. Nonsense after Nonsense. Stupidity after Stupidity! English words are not enough to explain your nonsense! The seven last words of Christ. They represent the seven chakras. And their meaning. 1.1 1. Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.(root chakra) " Root chakra—Mūlādhāra is the chakra of stability, security, and our basic needs. The root chakra is comprised of whatever grounds you to stability in your life. This includes your basic needs such as food, water, shelter, safety, as well as your emotional needs of interconnection, and being fearless. " 1.2 2. Today you will be with me in paradise.(sacral chakra) " The sacral chakra helps cultivate flexibility and adaptability. This empowers you to move on, accept change, and transform. When balanced, the sacral chakra allows you to be passionate, creative, and sensual while connecting with your feelings and emotions. " 1.3 3. Woman, behold, thy son! Son, behold, thy mother!(solar plexus chakra) " The solar plexus chakra helps grow your confidence and vitality. This empowers you to follow your true path and create the life you want. When balanced, the solar plexus chakra allows you to seize your personal power, develop your authentic self, and take responsibility for your life. " 1.4 4. My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? (heart chakra) " The heart chakra, or Anahata, deals with unconditional love and emotional power. At its core, this chakra is emotional and propels us to enhance our emotional development. The heart embodies a gentle wisdom that teaches us the ways of love and compassion." 1.5 5. I thirst.( throat chakra) " Having the Throat chakra in balance enables you to speak with confidence and have a clear expression of self. Sitting between the heart and the head chakra points this energy centre is the connector between thought and emotion. It is the gateway for you to express in a proactive and compassionate way." 1.6 6. It is finished. (third eye chakra) " The third eye is often associated with religious visions, clairvoyance, the ability to observe chakras and auras, precognition, and out-of-body experiences. People who are claimed to have the capacity to utilize their third eyes are sometimes known as seers. " 1.7 7. Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.(crown chakra) " The Crown Chakra is our connection with Divinity; it is the portal through which the life energy enters our body. Without this energy, human beings cannot function properly and tend to feel disconnected with self and others." |
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Mar 20, 2020 10:48:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 10:48:47 GMT
Yeah, somethings kinda stinky again in Washington D.C.... another government end-around/smash and grab like in 2008. It's gonna be interesting to sit & watch how it all unfolds....and lord knows, there 'aint much else to do. (Hubby came home stunned today....clubs in hand....the golf dome is closed down til mid April ) I had to laugh watching the local news this morning. Our local grocer is setting hours for senior citizens to shop their stores. We're, senior citi-zanies, the 7am to 9am shopping crew. We get the first crack at the fully stocked store with coupons in hand on Tuesday and Thursday mornings! I get to speak with the meat department manager at 7:15am, and ask him, "Hi! When is the deli going to start carrying fresh kielbasa? I have coupons!" I know he doesn't carry it. He'll glare at me. He doesn't know what the hell fresh kielbasa is. But it's a good way for him to start his day. Get's him away from his meat cleaver for a moment... next stop, the cookie aisle! That's more than I can bear reading about your husband and the golf dome. If the border between Canada and the U.S. wasn't locked down, I'd fly in with a coupla shovels and we'd tunnel our way in. Bastards!!! |
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Mar 20, 2020 11:17:59 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 11:17:59 GMT
oh great, now everyone I encounter has to be considered a potential threat  Coughing could become a murder weapon. There's a therapy.
oh hell no, that would only spread the disease in the worst imaginable way! |
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