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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2024 22:35:32 GMT
Nah. Just trying to break through her delusion of Sage-hood as she hides behind a curtain of anonymity. If you’re gonna claim to be realized then have the balls to put your face where your mouth. You got a problem with that? I was just messaged a rather inclusive list of YOUR personal info; A fb page, a business, place of business, photos, etc. Am I to take this bit here as an OK to post all of that, complete with pics? I’ve nothing to hide. Feel free to do as you wish with my public information. But I have ask. How can you sell a book to grieving peeps hoping to contact their passed love ones when you no longer believe in the reality of such a thing anymore? Opportunistic perhaps? Profit over truth perhaps?
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Post by Figgles on May 9, 2024 22:56:21 GMT
I was just messaged a rather inclusive list of YOUR personal info; A fb page, a business, place of business, photos, etc. Am I to take this bit here as an OK to post all of that, complete with pics? I’ve nothing to hide. Feel free to do as you wish with my public information. Well, for the records, I'm not gonna do it, but the one who sent the info. is saying he wants to...we'll see how that goes. Where did you get that? The experience of communicating with my deceased relatives is as "real" as the experience was of sitting with them on couch, conversing was, prior to their physical death. As an experience, continued relationship with loved ones...? it is very real, as real as any other experienced communication....entirely possible.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2024 23:03:06 GMT
I’ve nothing to hide. Feel free to do as you wish with my public information. Well, for the records, I'm not gonna do it, but the one who sent the info. is saying he wants to...we'll see how that goes. Where did you get that? The experience of communicating with my deceased relatives is as "real" as the experience was of sitting with them on couch, conversing was, prior to their physical death. As an experience, continued relationship with loved ones...? it is very real, as real as any other experienced communication....entirely possible. You know for absolute certain that your loved ones communicating with you are real or is it only the possibility of them being real and you’re not really sure?
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Post by Figgles on May 10, 2024 1:37:15 GMT
Well, for the records, I'm not gonna do it, but the one who sent the info. is saying he wants to...we'll see how that goes. Where did you get that? The experience of communicating with my deceased relatives is as "real" as the experience was of sitting with them on couch, conversing was, prior to their physical death. As an experience, continued relationship with loved ones...? it is very real, as real as any other experienced communication....entirely possible. You know for absolute certain that your loved ones communicating with you are real or is it only the possibility of them being real and you’re not really sure? What does the term "real" mean to you? I don't use it myself in Truth-talk, but will sometimes go along to get along, to say that something experienced is "real enough" to invoke interest/caring...to be engaged with. The experience of communicating with my deceased loved ones is no more or less valid, as something that is experienced, than my communications with so called "alive" ones. Both experiences are "appearance only." Nothing that appears is "existent in it's own right." Anything that is experienced has a relative, experiential, temporal, ephemeral "reality"...but that does not mean is abides or exists in it's own right. The problem is, one who has zero reference for the realization of inherent emptiness is not gonna 'get' what 'absence of inherent existence' is pointing to.
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Post by Figgles on May 10, 2024 2:48:59 GMT
Are you referencing my previous sharing that I suggested to them as youngsters in the midst of a tantrum, to stop and look "at" their anger? For whatever it's worth, my kids are not interested at present in Nonduality. I don't make a habit of talking to folks about Truth who have zero interest in such. Go for it, if that's what floats your boat. But we both know it's not a genuine interest you have in my book content, is it? At least admit that to yourself. For the record, there are no "existent entities" in the so called, "afterlife" just as there are no existent entities in so called physical life. What there is, for me anyway, is "an experience" of continued relationship with some family members who have passed, whom I was particularly close to. I've never argued any of it to be "Absolute Truth" even when I wrote the book and was still not fully awake, still looking for bridges within the story TO beyond. What you are doing Rick amounts to nothing more than a temper-tantrum, much the same sort that my kids had as toddlers. As I mentioned when I initially shared, they were more than able to step back, to look 'at' the anger and the mind content inherent to it. How 'bout you? Make any assumptions you’d like. They will just echo off the walls of this empty temple to your wisdom you call a spiritual forum just like all your other words. Better go attend to your flock of followers before they desert you. Oh wait, I don’t see anyone here. Hmmm. That's a mis-characterization. I don't have "followers," in the way you mean. While many here just come to read along, and some have expressed that they resonate with the message, yet, still, for whatever reason, don't log in to participate, I do speak to some of them via PM and I assure you, in many cases, their clarity speaks to me just as much as my own, apparently speaks to them. Truth is far best shared via dialogue, through discussion, imo.
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Post by ghostofmuttley on May 10, 2024 17:36:56 GMT
Though I guess if she doesn't mind, have at it. And as I learn more, it seems these forums have a history of playing hardball in various ways, which I don't know about.... It's the sentiment behind the sharing I take issue with. But ultimately, if he's gonna share on ST, I am banned/blocked from even logging in there, so it's out of my hands. I've experienced such in the past as well when over on ST, Muttley, in a rather heated exchange, decided to post direct links, name, etc, to a website I was running at the time.....seemed perhaps others who were taking his side, or were otherwise pissed at me...? (not entirely sure) sought me out to send nasty messages, trolling, etc. It meant some work on part re: protecting myself and family, etc. I can't say for certain that Herbert's postings of my facebook pic and book/name was behind the strange stuff that's now happening re: my facebook account, but the timing lines up. Two sides to every story. You want to litigate?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2024 18:15:49 GMT
Figs is NOT BANNED from ST. She chose to leave on her own accord and set up permanent camp here in Figbanistan. She is still an active member of ST but that does stop her from lying and playing the victim card here, again and again. But then again, anyone who would sell peeps a book offering hope and assurance of connecting with a love one in the afterlife while knowing full well, according to her belief system, that appearances are only as real as shadow puppets. Not telling buyers of that book her real thoughts about the dead or alive is plainly fraud. Can’t really expect honesty from someone who puts profit before truth.
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Post by Figgles on May 10, 2024 18:37:55 GMT
It's the sentiment behind the sharing I take issue with. But ultimately, if he's gonna share on ST, I am banned/blocked from even logging in there, so it's out of my hands. I've experienced such in the past as well when over on ST, Muttley, in a rather heated exchange, decided to post direct links, name, etc, to a website I was running at the time.....seemed perhaps others who were taking his side, or were otherwise pissed at me...? (not entirely sure) sought me out to send nasty messages, trolling, etc. It meant some work on part re: protecting myself and family, etc. I can't say for certain that Herbert's postings of my facebook pic and book/name was behind the strange stuff that's now happening re: my facebook account, but the timing lines up. Two sides to every story. You want to litigate? Sure, I'm up for hearing your take! As I recall, at the time, I think I wondered whether it might be you sending the messages or whether perhaps you encouraged others to do so. I can quite confidently at this point say that I am quite sure it was not you doing any of that at all, that you are not in fact that kind of a person, thus, an overt accusation of such, if I made it, was not fair to you. Fact is though, that when there are arguments happening on forum, with two sides getting taken, even those reading along might get heated and some might take advantage of the shared personal into. to try to reach out and get their own jabs in...just seems to be the way things are...mob mentality kind of thing.
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Post by Figgles on May 10, 2024 18:52:27 GMT
Figs is NOT BANNED from ST. She chose to leave on her own accord and set up permanent camp here in Figbanistan. She is still an active member of ST but that does stop her from lying and playing the victim card here, again and again. When I try to log in to old account, I get a big white page with two black rectangles, telling me I am banned. When I log out and enter my email, I receive a white background with one sentence, "You are banned from this forum." I believe it is my IP that is banned, along with my email. Although I admit, I'm not the most savvy with this computer/tech stuff of that sort so can't say for sure. I am most certainly not "lying" about this....can send pic/screen shot if need be. That it but your own misguided, misconceived, deluded view of what "appearance only/absent inherent existence" means. You don't know what those words are pointing to, what they actually represent, what they are trying to describe, because plain and simply, you do not yet have direct reference for such. And what dear herbert ARE my so called "real thoughts"? That characters, apparent persons, dead or alive are all part and parcel of the overriding, unfolding story in no way takes away from the experiential beauty, joy, communion of those experienced relationships. You are way out to lunch in terms of what "you think" inherent emptiness means!!!! Rather than throwing turds at me for trying to point to emptiness/absence of Absolute knowing, you'd do far better to ask more questions. You clearly have grossly misconstrued what the pointer "appearance only" is referencing. You are clearly lashing out, having a very resistant response to what you think "empty appearance" means...it really is not as bad as you think; There really is no negative judgment inherent to that realization, I promise you. Experiential content is not being denigrated, denied or tossed to the side as some kind of 'shadow puppet.'That is all YOUR OWN misconceived view.
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Post by Figgles on May 10, 2024 18:58:21 GMT
I'm unable to share a screen shot, but I've copied & pasted the messages I get when I try to log in or create a new account:
"You have been banned from this forum."
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