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Post by siftingtothetruth on Jun 30, 2019 14:06:08 GMT
I would stare at my hands and think, “I’m not me.” No matter where I was, in the middle of a busy street or at my dining table at home, the condition would be the same. It was like looking at my hands through a plate of glass. Although I could feel the skin on my palms, it did not feel like my own. Half of myself would move through the day while the other half watched. I was split in two...Of spiritual relevance? Read more here...
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Post by muttley on Jun 30, 2019 14:15:00 GMT
I would stare at my hands and think, “I’m not me.” No matter where I was, in the middle of a busy street or at my dining table at home, the condition would be the same. It was like looking at my hands through a plate of glass. Although I could feel the skin on my palms, it did not feel like my own. Half of myself would move through the day while the other half watched. I was split in two...Of spiritual relevance? Read more here... Yes, because it's possible to get into a dissociated state like this by meditating. As I recall, I think the whacky weed can lead to the same deal.
The person describing it obviously still has a strong (and false) sense of personal self, and this leads to fear. If the nature of the person has been realized - or, I'd be willing to wager, even simply weakened in a relative sense - this won't happen. This is of spiritual relevance because it might get the person experiencing it interested in all sorts of spiritual topics, like, self-inquiry or witnessing change as awareness becoming aware, because it can shake their sense of reality/self.
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Post by siftingtothetruth on Jun 30, 2019 14:27:41 GMT
I would stare at my hands and think, “I’m not me.” No matter where I was, in the middle of a busy street or at my dining table at home, the condition would be the same. It was like looking at my hands through a plate of glass. Although I could feel the skin on my palms, it did not feel like my own. Half of myself would move through the day while the other half watched. I was split in two...Of spiritual relevance? Read more here... Yes, because it's possible to get into a dissociated state like this by meditating. As I recall, I think the whacky weed can lead to the same deal.
The person describing it obviously still has a strong (and false) sense of personal self, and this leads to fear. If the nature of the person has been realized - or, I'd be willing to wager, even simply weakened in a relative sense - this won't happen. This is of spiritual relevance because it might get the person experiencing it interested in all sorts of spiritual topics, like, self-inquiry or witnessing change as awareness becoming aware, because it can shake their sense of reality/self.
Yup, agreed on all points. There is something connected at a deep root level, too, I think, about dissociation and realization. When Ramana Maharshi says that realization is a kind of madness, I think he means that dissociative aspect...
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Post by muttley on Jul 1, 2019 16:01:31 GMT
Yes, because it's possible to get into a dissociated state like this by meditating. As I recall, I think the whacky weed can lead to the same deal.
The person describing it obviously still has a strong (and false) sense of personal self, and this leads to fear. If the nature of the person has been realized - or, I'd be willing to wager, even simply weakened in a relative sense - this won't happen. This is of spiritual relevance because it might get the person experiencing it interested in all sorts of spiritual topics, like, self-inquiry or witnessing change as awareness becoming aware, because it can shake their sense of reality/self.
Yup, agreed on all points. There is something connected at a deep root level, too, I think, about dissociation and realization. When Ramana Maharshi says that realization is a kind of madness, I think he means that dissociative aspect... There's an interesting echo from what we know of ancient tribal cultures and their Shaman's, how what they used to do is abhorred by our current culture to the point of calling it a disease. If most of the mentally ill were simply treated more gently and given some support they'd have very different lives, and it makes you wonder where those genes came from.
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