Esponja
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Post by Esponja on Oct 17, 2021 23:31:34 GMT
Do beliefs shape your reality. In my line of work, I’d say ‘yes’ indeed. I have seen so much, yet from a non-duality perspective there is no cause and effect. John writes about it here. Whilst I am not running out to get the vaccine as a bit of a f-u to the Gvt, am not in fear of it, I know what I am can not die and I believe the body/mind is a powerful force. High vibration counts. I attended two Dr Dispenza retreats and I met people who cured from stage 4 cancer when Drs told them 6 months. I do believe in healing our energy centres and healing our traumas but I also know there is no cause and effect. Let me know your thoughts. NO PHYSICAL CAUSE FOR ANYTHING -John McIntosh Cigarettes do NOT cause cancer, cholesterol does NOT cause heart disease, stress does NOT cause high blood pressure, poor nutrition does NOT cause immunity dysfunctions! There is no physical cause for anything ... everything that manifests, arrives due to Attention, Belief and Passion. Manifestation may use a vehicle such as smoke as a conduit for a physical message such as lung cancer, but its cause began with the ‘Attention’ that was paid to a ‘Belief’ and the degree of ‘Passion’ that fueled that belief. For example, ‘shame’ can make you feel like you can’t breathe. If you do not at some point look at what brought you to shame and transform that error your attention on it, usually unconscious by then buried deeply under mountains of distraction, sedation and running … WILL find a way of getting you to consciously look at it ... such as lung cancer. Whether you recognize the cancer or heart attack or stroke or diabetes as a message with far deeper roots than physical behavior is another matter. The false self does NOT understand ‘real cause’. As a result, these messages are usually missed and either the body departs this earth, or the SELF looks for different outlets to get the attention of the slumbering God-SELF. Guilt, shame, remorse, unworthiness and all other branches of that core tree of ‘conditioning’ are just veils hiding the Real You. As long as you believe you are a separated body-mind-identity [persons], they will grow branches and send you messages through your body and experiences to look at the buried conditioning hiding the Real Self. This is the ‘Divine Discontent’ that turns your Attention inward where Truth resides. #11 -sent from our Retreat at the Forest in the Sky - Flamingo Dai Lai Resort in Vietnam BOOKS by John McIntosh www.johnmcintosh.info/copy-of-booksSUBSCRIBE to John McIntosh’s BLOG www.johnmcintosh.info/subscribe |
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Post by Figgles on Oct 18, 2021 0:56:52 GMT
Do beliefs shape your reality. In my line of work, I’d say ‘yes’ indeed. I have seen so much, yet from a non-duality perspective there is no cause and effect. John writes about it here. Whilst I am not running out to get the vaccine as a bit of a f-u to the Gvt, am not in fear of it, I know what I am can not die and I believe the body/mind is a powerful force. High vibration counts. I attended two Dr Dispenza retreats and I met people who cured from stage 4 cancer when Drs told them 6 months. I do believe in healing our energy centres and healing our traumas but I also know there is no cause and effect. Let me know your thoughts. NO PHYSICAL CAUSE FOR ANYTHING -John McIntosh Cigarettes do NOT cause cancer, cholesterol does NOT cause heart disease, stress does NOT cause high blood pressure, poor nutrition does NOT cause immunity dysfunctions! There is no physical cause for anything ... everything that manifests, arrives due to Attention, Belief and Passion. Manifestation may use a vehicle such as smoke as a conduit for a physical message such as lung cancer, but its cause began with the ‘Attention’ that was paid to a ‘Belief’ and the degree of ‘Passion’ that fueled that belief.For example, ‘shame’ can make you feel like you can’t breathe. If you do not at some point look at what brought you to shame and transform that error your attention on it, usually unconscious by then buried deeply under mountains of distraction, sedation and running … WILL find a way of getting you to consciously look at it ... such as lung cancer. Whether you recognize the cancer or heart attack or stroke or diabetes as a message with far deeper roots than physical behavior is another matter. The false self does NOT understand ‘real cause’. As a result, these messages are usually missed and either the body departs this earth, or the SELF looks for different outlets to get the attention of the slumbering God-SELF. Guilt, shame, remorse, unworthiness and all other branches of that core tree of ‘conditioning’ are just veils hiding the Real You. As long as you believe you are a separated body-mind-identity [persons], they will grow branches and send you messages through your body and experiences to look at the buried conditioning hiding the Real Self. This is the ‘Divine Discontent’ that turns your Attention inward where Truth resides. #11 -sent from our Retreat at the Forest in the Sky - Flamingo Dai Lai Resort in Vietnam BOOKS by John McIntosh www.johnmcintosh.info/copy-of-booksSUBSCRIBE to John McIntosh’s BLOG www.johnmcintosh.info/subscribeI'm in complete agreement with the pointer that "there is no physical cause for anything." I prefer to state: There is nothing within the dream that actually causes anything else in the dream to appear. I'm actually surprised that he makes that point but then says what he does in the bolded. The very idea that certain things manifest/arrive 'due to' belief, passion, attention (other manifestations) is an assertion of causation within the dream. It's all correlated for sure, but 'due to' to me implies the very causation he says isn't there.... when we take time, space, causation (separation!) out the picture, then the idea that anything at all manifests/appears "due to" something else that appears, falls flat. I think to see this clearly, the very ideas of "manifestation" and "creation" also need to go. The very idea that the story/dream is sequentially manifesting or that it is "being created" buys into the idea of causation to some degree. All there really is, is NOW. Whatever is appearing, does so here...now.....the very idea of manifestation/creation, invokes a movement... the idea of time/space. |
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Inavalan
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Post by Inavalan on Oct 18, 2021 1:31:39 GMT
Do beliefs shape your reality. In my line of work, I’d say ‘yes’ indeed. I have seen so much, yet from a non-duality perspective there is no cause and effect. John writes about it here. Whilst I am not running out to get the vaccine as a bit of a f-u to the Gvt, am not in fear of it, I know what I am can not die and I believe the body/mind is a powerful force. High vibration counts. I attended two Dr Dispenza retreats and I met people who cured from stage 4 cancer when Drs told them 6 months. I do believe in healing our energy centres and healing our traumas but I also know there is no cause and effect. Let me know your thoughts. NO PHYSICAL CAUSE FOR ANYTHING -John McIntosh Cigarettes do NOT cause cancer, cholesterol does NOT cause heart disease, stress does NOT cause high blood pressure, poor nutrition does NOT cause immunity dysfunctions! There is no physical cause for anything ... everything that manifests, arrives due to Attention, Belief and Passion. Manifestation may use a vehicle such as smoke as a conduit for a physical message such as lung cancer, but its cause began with the ‘Attention’ that was paid to a ‘Belief’ and the degree of ‘Passion’ that fueled that belief.For example, ‘shame’ can make you feel like you can’t breathe. If you do not at some point look at what brought you to shame and transform that error your attention on it, usually unconscious by then buried deeply under mountains of distraction, sedation and running … WILL find a way of getting you to consciously look at it ... such as lung cancer. Whether you recognize the cancer or heart attack or stroke or diabetes as a message with far deeper roots than physical behavior is another matter. The false self does NOT understand ‘real cause’. As a result, these messages are usually missed and either the body departs this earth, or the SELF looks for different outlets to get the attention of the slumbering God-SELF. Guilt, shame, remorse, unworthiness and all other branches of that core tree of ‘conditioning’ are just veils hiding the Real You. As long as you believe you are a separated body-mind-identity [persons], they will grow branches and send you messages through your body and experiences to look at the buried conditioning hiding the Real Self. This is the ‘Divine Discontent’ that turns your Attention inward where Truth resides. #11 -sent from our Retreat at the Forest in the Sky - Flamingo Dai Lai Resort in Vietnam BOOKS by John McIntosh www.johnmcintosh.info/copy-of-booksSUBSCRIBE to John McIntosh’s BLOG www.johnmcintosh.info/subscribeI'm in complete agreement with the pointer that "there is no physical cause for anything." I prefer to state: There is nothing within the dream that actually causes anything else in the dream to appear. I'm actually surprised that he makes that point but then says what he does in the bolded. The very idea that certain things manifest/arrive 'due to' belief, passion, attention (other manifestations) is an assertion of causation within the dream. It's all correlated for sure, but 'due to' to me implies the very causation he says isn't there.... when we take time, space, causation (separation!) out the picture, then the idea that anything at all manifests/appears "due to" something else that appears, falls flat. I think to see this clearly, the very ideas of "manifestation" and "creation" also need to go. The very idea that the story/dream is sequentially manifesting or that it is "being created" buys into the idea of causation to some degree. All there really is, is NOW. Whatever is appearing, does so here...now.....the very idea of manifestation/creation, invokes a movement... the idea of time/space. Are you saying that, in your opinion, whatever you think and do now has no impact in whatever you'll experience next? I believe it does. If so, it means that whatever you experience now must have been impacted by some precedent thought / action of yours, that the awake you may or may not be aware of in this now. In general terms, do you mean that it doesn't matter what you're thinking and doing now? Thinking includes here emotions and feelings too, not only volitional thoughts. |
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Post by Figgles on Oct 18, 2021 2:16:33 GMT
I'm in complete agreement with the pointer that "there is no physical cause for anything." I prefer to state: There is nothing within the dream that actually causes anything else in the dream to appear. I'm actually surprised that he makes that point but then says what he does in the bolded. The very idea that certain things manifest/arrive 'due to' belief, passion, attention (other manifestations) is an assertion of causation within the dream. It's all correlated for sure, but 'due to' to me implies the very causation he says isn't there.... when we take time, space, causation (separation!) out the picture, then the idea that anything at all manifests/appears "due to" something else that appears, falls flat. I think to see this clearly, the very ideas of "manifestation" and "creation" also need to go. The very idea that the story/dream is sequentially manifesting or that it is "being created" buys into the idea of causation to some degree. All there really is, is NOW. Whatever is appearing, does so here...now.....the very idea of manifestation/creation, invokes a movement... the idea of time/space. I believe it does. If so, it means that whatever you experience now must have been impacted by some precedent thought / action of yours, that the awake you may or may not be aware of in this now. In general terms, do you mean that it doesn't matter what you're thinking and doing now? Thinking includes here emotions and feelings too, not only volitional thoughts. What I'm saying about 'no actual causation' is not a personal opinion. It's part and parcel of seeing through separation. Anything appearing, is appearing NOW, or not all..... Anything experienced is arising NOW. Past/future are always nothing more than ideas arising here, NOW. A present moment absence of an SVP = a present moment experience that is absent the sense of separation. That's an example of 'impact' and really, actually, that's as far as it goes. The idea of one facet of experience 'actually' being causal/creative to another, is a delusion. Consider a movie appearing upon a movie screen. Is the current circumstance of the movie, appearing on the screen, actually "causing" the next moment of appearing circumstance to appear upon the screen? Is one happening/appearance, actually 'impacting' another? |
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Post by Inavalan on Oct 18, 2021 3:25:37 GMT
Are you saying that, in your opinion, whatever you think and do now has no impact in whatever you'll experience next? I believe it does. If so, it means that whatever you experience now must have been impacted by some precedent thought / action of yours, that the awake you may or may not be aware of in this now. In general terms, do you mean that it doesn't matter what you're thinking and doing now? Thinking includes here emotions and feelings too, not only volitional thoughts. What I'm saying about 'no actual causation' is not a personal opinion. It's part and parcel of seeing through separation. Anything appearing, is appearing NOW, or not all..... Anything experienced is arising NOW. Past/future are always nothing more than ideas arising here, NOW. A present moment absence of an SVP = a present moment experience that is absent the sense of separation. That's an example of 'impact' and really, actually, that's as far as it goes. The idea of one facet of experience 'actually' being causal/creative to another, is a delusion. Consider a movie appearing upon a movie screen. Is the current circumstance of the movie, appearing on the screen, actually "causing" the next moment of appearing circumstance to appear upon the screen? Is one happening/appearance, actually 'impacting' another?  |
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Esponja
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Post by Esponja on Oct 18, 2021 5:13:30 GMT
Do beliefs shape your reality. In my line of work, I’d say ‘yes’ indeed. I have seen so much, yet from a non-duality perspective there is no cause and effect. John writes about it here. Whilst I am not running out to get the vaccine as a bit of a f-u to the Gvt, am not in fear of it, I know what I am can not die and I believe the body/mind is a powerful force. High vibration counts. I attended two Dr Dispenza retreats and I met people who cured from stage 4 cancer when Drs told them 6 months. I do believe in healing our energy centres and healing our traumas but I also know there is no cause and effect. Let me know your thoughts. NO PHYSICAL CAUSE FOR ANYTHING -John McIntosh Cigarettes do NOT cause cancer, cholesterol does NOT cause heart disease, stress does NOT cause high blood pressure, poor nutrition does NOT cause immunity dysfunctions! There is no physical cause for anything ... everything that manifests, arrives due to Attention, Belief and Passion. Manifestation may use a vehicle such as smoke as a conduit for a physical message such as lung cancer, but its cause began with the ‘Attention’ that was paid to a ‘Belief’ and the degree of ‘Passion’ that fueled that belief.For example, ‘shame’ can make you feel like you can’t breathe. If you do not at some point look at what brought you to shame and transform that error your attention on it, usually unconscious by then buried deeply under mountains of distraction, sedation and running … WILL find a way of getting you to consciously look at it ... such as lung cancer. Whether you recognize the cancer or heart attack or stroke or diabetes as a message with far deeper roots than physical behavior is another matter. The false self does NOT understand ‘real cause’. As a result, these messages are usually missed and either the body departs this earth, or the SELF looks for different outlets to get the attention of the slumbering God-SELF. Guilt, shame, remorse, unworthiness and all other branches of that core tree of ‘conditioning’ are just veils hiding the Real You. As long as you believe you are a separated body-mind-identity [persons], they will grow branches and send you messages through your body and experiences to look at the buried conditioning hiding the Real Self. This is the ‘Divine Discontent’ that turns your Attention inward where Truth resides. #11 -sent from our Retreat at the Forest in the Sky - Flamingo Dai Lai Resort in Vietnam BOOKS by John McIntosh www.johnmcintosh.info/copy-of-booksSUBSCRIBE to John McIntosh’s BLOG www.johnmcintosh.info/subscribeI'm in complete agreement with the pointer that "there is no physical cause for anything." I prefer to state: There is nothing within the dream that actually causes anything else in the dream to appear. I'm actually surprised that he makes that point but then says what he does in the bolded. The very idea that certain things manifest/arrive 'due to' belief, passion, attention (other manifestations) is an assertion of causation within the dream. It's all correlated for sure, but 'due to' to me implies the very causation he says isn't there.... when we take time, space, causation (separation!) out the picture, then the idea that anything at all manifests/appears "due to" something else that appears, falls flat. I think to see this clearly, the very ideas of "manifestation" and "creation" also need to go. The very idea that the story/dream is sequentially manifesting or that it is "being created" buys into the idea of causation to some degree. All there really is, is NOW. Whatever is appearing, does so here...now.....the very idea of manifestation/creation, invokes a movement... the idea of time/space. I agree. It makes no sense from a non-dual teacher, he seems to have one foot in and one foot out. |
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Post by Figgles on Oct 18, 2021 21:32:59 GMT
This is akin to saying, the delusion isn't the problem, it's the attitude as you engage the delusion that is.
The seeker who practices in the misguided belief that in doing so, he is getting closer....is causing/attaining SR, is under the delusion of separation.
"Attitude" is a self-help issue/idea/concern only....it does not apply to realization/awakening.
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