Esponja
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Post by Esponja on Jul 30, 2021 4:37:28 GMT
Lately, I found myself listening to different non-dual teachers and getting confused, I was fortunate to hop online on a private with Kat and Bob. Did you know he is 93? They have an amazing way of continually pointing to the truth and giving the mind a full stop.
Now is the only Truth.
Seeker: Bob, they keep telling us to stay in the now, how do I do it?
Bob: Who are they? Why don't you ask 'them' if the resonating is there? Anyway, they may tell you to stay in the now, I tell you, try and get out of the now, see how that goes. You may understand that you can never leave this present moment.
Seeker: So it is about specific language of pointing? This is why they tell us to stay with one master or one style of pointing? To avoid confusion?
Bob: Just give it a go for a while and see how it works for you.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 30, 2021 17:32:13 GMT
Lately, I found myself listening to different non-dual teachers and getting confused, I was fortunate to hop online on a private with Kat and Bob. Did you know he is 93? They have an amazing way of continually pointing to the truth and giving the mind a full stop. Now is the only Truth. Seeker: Bob, they keep telling us to stay in the now, how do I do it? Bob: Who are they? Why don't you ask 'them' if the resonating is there? Anyway, they may tell you to stay in the now, I tell you, try and get out of the now, see how that goes. You may understand that you can never leave this present moment. Seeker: So it is about specific language of pointing? This is why they tell us to stay with one master or one style of pointing? To avoid confusion? Bob: Just give it a go for a while and see how it works for you. It is interesting isn't it how one teacher that slaps really hard for one, leaves another cold? I agree with you, the Sailor Bob pointers for me too, seem very clear...cut through so much of the crap compared to certain others. I think some teachers like Tolle comes to mind, are intent on spanning both self-help and Nonduality, which can get real confusing for someone who is truly and sincerely interested in Truth vs. pandering to the person. I would say Tolle for example, is speaking more to seekers who are still very entrenched in the story and the SVP, while Sailor Bob's pointers and the hard-line he takes of giving no concession to the story, always pointing beyond, will tend to resonate more with someone who is farther along...who has some glimpses/glimmers of the absence inherent to SR/waking up. |
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Post by Esponja on Jul 31, 2021 1:07:29 GMT
Lately, I found myself listening to different non-dual teachers and getting confused, I was fortunate to hop online on a private with Kat and Bob. Did you know he is 93? They have an amazing way of continually pointing to the truth and giving the mind a full stop. Now is the only Truth. Seeker: Bob, they keep telling us to stay in the now, how do I do it? Bob: Who are they? Why don't you ask 'them' if the resonating is there? Anyway, they may tell you to stay in the now, I tell you, try and get out of the now, see how that goes. You may understand that you can never leave this present moment. Seeker: So it is about specific language of pointing? This is why they tell us to stay with one master or one style of pointing? To avoid confusion? Bob: Just give it a go for a while and see how it works for you. It is interesting isn't it how one teacher that slaps really hard for one, leaves another cold? I agree with you, the Sailor Bob pointers for me too, seem very clear...cut through so much of the crap compared to certain others. I think some teachers like Tolle comes to mind, are intent on spanning both self-help and Nonduality, which can get real confusing for someone who is truly and sincerely interested in Truth vs. pandering to the person. I would say Tolle for example, is speaking more to seekers who are still very entrenched in the story and the SVP, while Sailor Bob's pointers and the hard-line he takes of giving no concession to the story, always pointing beyond, will tend to resonate more with someone who is farther along...who has some glimpses/glimmers of the absence inherent to SR/waking up. Makes sense to me too. Tolle is great for reaching the masses and that’s a good thing, even if it makes people more conscious or mindful that’s fab but he is certainly more about marketing than Truth I see now. Even his New Earth stuff, at the end of the day - he can’t know fot sure. Imagination only. |
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Post by Figgles on Jul 31, 2021 5:04:27 GMT
It is interesting isn't it how one teacher that slaps really hard for one, leaves another cold? I agree with you, the Sailor Bob pointers for me too, seem very clear...cut through so much of the crap compared to certain others. I think some teachers like Tolle comes to mind, are intent on spanning both self-help and Nonduality, which can get real confusing for someone who is truly and sincerely interested in Truth vs. pandering to the person. I would say Tolle for example, is speaking more to seekers who are still very entrenched in the story and the SVP, while Sailor Bob's pointers and the hard-line he takes of giving no concession to the story, always pointing beyond, will tend to resonate more with someone who is farther along...who has some glimpses/glimmers of the absence inherent to SR/waking up. Makes sense to me too. Tolle is great for reaching the masses and that’s a good thing, even if it makes people more conscious or mindful that’s fab but he is certainly more about marketing than Truth I see now. Even his New Earth stuff, at the end of the day - he can’t know fot sure. Imagination only. Yup. Even the most intuitive, supposedly, experientially, psychic, absolute (seeming) knowing of what's going to manifest tomorrow, IS imagination/surmising. That itself, part parcel of the dream. Nothing wrong with it--just don't mistake it for Truth. |
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Post by Esponja on Jul 31, 2021 5:08:00 GMT
Makes sense to me too. Tolle is great for reaching the masses and that’s a good thing, even if it makes people more conscious or mindful that’s fab but he is certainly more about marketing than Truth I see now. Even his New Earth stuff, at the end of the day - he can’t know fot sure. Imagination only. Yup. Even the most intuitive, supposedly, experientially, psychic, absolute (seeming) knowing of what's going to manifest tomorrow, IS imagination/surmising. That itself, part parcel of the dream. Nothing wrong with it--just don't mistake it for Truth. 💯 |
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