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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 8:35:24 GMT
No, I can't go back to 1) now. I'm moving on to 3).   One sentence gave me more than enough background on a subject that I couldn't care less about. But what? Some peeps are having adverse reactions to the shot? If that's the case then I'm glad I wasn't one of them. |
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Post by muttley on Jul 18, 2021 8:38:13 GMT
Then your assertion that there is no good reason for vax hesitancy is based, at least in part, on willful ignorance.  I already said there were lots of lame excuses (like that one). That one ranks somewhere between "but I don't like shots" and "there's a bug in it". No. The reason is the fact as I've explained it:
(1) The CDC maintains VAERS, a system by which physicians self-report adverse vaccine reactions in their patients. (2) The reporting on the covid-19 vaccines represents an order-of-magnitude spike in incidences compared with past data.
Your retort is "that's lame, it's like saying there's a bug in the shot". Your retort is subjective, emotionally tinged opinion, and what it's about, are two simple facts.  |
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Post by muttley on Jul 18, 2021 8:40:42 GMT
One sentence gave me more than enough background on a subject that I couldn't care less about. But what? Some peeps are having adverse reactions to the shot? If that's the case then I'm glad I wasn't one of them. Well, so am I btw, and of the half dozen or so people I know that got the jab none of them have reported anything bad either, and I'm glad about that too. Do you mean that sentence from some internet "fact-checker" about how they opine that the VAERS data is used?
Like I told you up front son, meeting facts with opinion will illicit ridicule.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 8:47:15 GMT
One sentence gave me more than enough background on a subject that I couldn't care less about. But what? Some peeps are having adverse reactions to the shot? If that's the case then I'm glad I wasn't one of them. Well, so am I btw, and of the half dozen or so people I know that got the jab none of them have reported anything bad either, and I'm glad about that too. Do you mean that sentence from some internet "fact-checker" about how they opine that the VAERS data is used?
Like I told you up front son, meeting facts with opinion will illicit ridicule. Ridicule all you want son. But all you're doing is playing a ping pong match in your head.. Are you winning? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 8:55:32 GMT
Due to time restraints I'm skipping ahead to 5) (at this rate I'll never even get a chance to debunk Arizona!) (5) A significant % of reported new covid cases are among the jabbed Uh huh. Just how significant Mr facts man? |
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Post by muttley on Jul 18, 2021 9:12:33 GMT
Well, so am I btw, and of the half dozen or so people I know that got the jab none of them have reported anything bad either, and I'm glad about that too. Do you mean that sentence from some internet "fact-checker" about how they opine that the VAERS data is used?
Like I told you up front son, meeting facts with opinion will illicit ridicule. Ridicule all you want son. But all you're doing is playing a ping pong match in your head.. Are you winning? Dude. You're the one with the assertion that there's no good reason for anyone to not-jab. I've given you facts. You reply, with emotional opinions. Ain't just in my head, it's in yours, as well. |
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Post by muttley on Jul 18, 2021 9:16:46 GMT
Due to time restraints I'm skipping ahead to 5) (at this rate I'll never even get a chance to debunk Arizona!) (5) A significant % of reported new covid cases are among the jabbed Uh huh. Just how significant Mr facts man? Okey-dokey, well, then. Skipping #4 is willful ignorance of a 2nd fact from the list.
I'll admit, (5) is my shakiest point - it's based on my casual reads from my news sources. I really don't have any reason to believe them any more than you have to believe yours other than yours have been caught red-handed lying, like about the bat/pangolin interspecies love affair, Hunter's laptop, Trump mocking dead soldier's, Epstein's "suicide", and irate Cubans in the street 'cause there ain't enough jabs, for example. 
If you want to do dueling sources on this one, I'm down. You go first.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 9:34:06 GMT
(4) The manufacturers, distributors and administrators of the vax have been granted sweeping and unprecedented immunity from civil liabilities that might arise from the effects of taking it.
If they hadn't been given the waiver they wouldn't have taken the risk of producing it..
Besides, shielding corporations from harm is like a priority of the Republican party.. so don't try to use this as a mark against your adversaries
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 9:37:17 GMT
Ridicule all you want son. But all you're doing is playing a ping pong match in your head.. Are you winning? Dude. You're the one with the assertion that there's no good reason for anyone to not-jab. I've given you facts. You reply, with emotional opinions. Ain't just in my head, it's in yours, as well. I'm not emotional about this, you're barking up the wrong tree (and not the first time you've resorted to this fallacy btw) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 9:45:12 GMT
Due to time restraints I'm skipping ahead to 5) (at this rate I'll never even get a chance to debunk Arizona!) (5) A significant % of reported new covid cases are among the jabbed Uh huh. Just how significant Mr facts man? Okey-dokey, well, then. Skipping #4 is willful ignorance of a 2nd fact from the list. I'll admit, (5) is my shakiest point - it's based on my casual reads from my news sources. I really don't have any reason to believe them any more than you have to believe yours other than yours have been caught red-handed lying, like about the bat/pangolin interspecies love affair, Hunter's laptop, Trump mocking dead soldier's, Epstein's "suicide", and irate Cubans in the street 'cause there ain't enough jabs, for example. If you want to do dueling sources on this one, I'm down. You go first. ?? You must see everything thru the 'us vs them' lens  |
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