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Post by Figgles on Dec 1, 2019 17:04:47 GMT
Nope. All identification obscures the Truth. It matters not 'what' it is you're identifying with. It doesn't matter if you take yourself for being a flesh/blood person or for 'aliveness' itself, or for spirit embodying a human. If it's something that can be grasped by mind, it's 'identification with thingness,' and that is not just a mere bridge away, it's completely beyond the conceptual. The very bridge you think exists, exists only in experience. What you are seeking for lies beyond anything that arises in experience.
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Post by Figgles on Dec 1, 2019 17:08:28 GMT
Really? So long as identification of any kind is in play, one is taking themselves to be something appearing in the dream, which means, they are oblivious to Being the ground to which all arises within/to. It's 'identification' itself that must be seen through, not any particular identity.
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Post by Figgles on Dec 1, 2019 17:28:54 GMT
Mysticism is not Truth. If there were no 'entity' being taken as actual, the mystical experience itself would not be taken as 'actual' or as representative of Truth. You don't get Truthy experience absent identification with an entity/SVP. It is identification with/as 'something' that has you mistaking a very special experience for the absolute Truth. Indeed, often on the heels of/in tandem with a mystical experience, there IS actual realization, but many make the mistake of conflating the realization with the experience, which undoubtedly means that the realization came....and went. If/when the realization abides, it's also clearly seen that the experiential aspect was not itself Truthy, but rather, just mind interloping itself into the realization to try to find something for itself. Therein lies the challenge with regards to mystical experience. Far better when realization just comes right out the blue, with mind neatly tucked into the back-seat, outta the way entirely. Seriously? You're gonna admonish E for telling the Truth? Did you notice that you did not simply read his words and move on...? That you rebutted his assertion? Is that what 'agreeing to disagree' looks like to you?
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Post by Figgles on Dec 2, 2019 16:05:57 GMT
Correct!
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Post by Figgles on Dec 2, 2019 16:07:33 GMT
Beautiful.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 3:49:16 GMT
If there were no entities to suffer the illusion of personhood, the intelligence would never wake up from it's dream...which is the reason for being here.
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Post by Figgles on Dec 10, 2019 4:19:52 GMT
If there were no entities to suffer the illusion of personhood, the intelligence would never wake up from it's dream...which is the reason for being here. There are no entities. That would mean separation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 9:28:04 GMT
If there were no entities to suffer the illusion of personhood, the intelligence would never wake up from it's dream...which is the reason for being here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 16:23:30 GMT
If there were no entities to suffer the illusion of personhood, the intelligence would never wake up from it's dream...which is the reason for being here. There are no entities. That would mean separation. There is the illusion of entities and personhood. Meaning as long as the illusion is believed to be real, there will be suffering. If the illusory entities never suffered there would be no impetus to transcend them.
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