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Jan 5, 2020 17:46:54 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 17:46:54 GMT
You're a pretty good example of this. Yes, you are junior, you just have to turn the mirror around and claim it... You're claiming that I'm supposed to suppose you've done that... Wake up, junior
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Jan 5, 2020 17:51:21 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 17:51:21 GMT
Yes, you are junior, you just have to turn the mirror around and claim it... You're claiming that I'm supposed to suppose you've done that... Wake up, junior Are you proving you're one of Enigmas irrelevance sheeple?
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Jan 5, 2020 17:52:58 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 17:52:58 GMT
You're claiming that I'm supposed to suppose you've done that... Wake up, junior Are you proving you're one of Enigmas irrelevant sheeple? As predicted.... another concept.
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Jan 5, 2020 19:51:29 GMT
Post by Figgles on Jan 5, 2020 19:51:29 GMT
You're playing word games. Distinction = difference. Fundamentally not-separate does not mean exactly the same/no distinction. If not for distinction, there would be no perception at all.The moment perception happens, distinction itself is appearing. The 'water' analogy is limited in that water is a something that can be conceptualized. Perceivables are not 'made up of/comprised' of "________________." "______________" is not a substance that infuses perceivables. When it's said that a perceivable is "________________", that's a pointer. Taking that to mean that perceivables are 'made up of' that, indicates conceptualization of that pointer. Perceivables are inherently empty of all substance and appear/arise, non-separately, within/to "_________________." Mind likes to confuse itself, because that's what mind does... Take the statement, "I am aware of milk", or "I am aware of a tree". Can you clearly 'discern' the two elements in each statement or not? What do you mean by 'elements'? What can be discerned is the appearance of tree, appearance of milk. The very idea that there is some actual, existent 'element' that comprises each, is a misconception...a fallacy. All appearance is empty in that sense; There is no actual/fundamental substance that can be perceptually discerned. If some kind of energy or substance is discerned that comprises form, then that too falls under the umbrella of 'that which appears.' However, all appearances, including the appearance of some kind of substance/element that comprises form, can be 'realized' to be non-separately arising within/to that which is fundamental.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 0:14:21 GMT
Mind likes to confuse itself, because that's what mind does... Take the statement, "I am aware of milk", or "I am aware of a tree". Can you clearly 'discern' the two elements in each statement or not? What do you mean by 'elements'? What can be discerned is the appearance of tree, appearance of milk. The very idea that there is some actual, existent 'element' that comprises each, is a misconception...a fallacy. All appearance is empty in that sense; There is no actual/fundamental substance that can be perceptually discerned. If some kind of energy or substance is discerned that comprises form, then that too falls under the umbrella of 'that which appears.' However, all appearances, including the appearance of some kind of substance/element that comprises form, can be 'realized' to be non-separately arising within/to that which is fundamental. So you can't discern the words I am or the word aware, in the following sentence? I am aware of a tree... Do you know what discern means? Your contention is that you can only discern the word tree and not the words I am, or aware of??? For someone that's fascinated with grammar, not recognizing basic english sentence structure is really funny... Rofl
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Jan 16, 2020 2:30:11 GMT
Post by Figgles on Jan 16, 2020 2:30:11 GMT
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Jan 17, 2020 4:12:51 GMT
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Jan 17, 2020 15:45:53 GMT
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Jan 17, 2020 16:41:32 GMT
Post by Figgles on Jan 17, 2020 16:41:32 GMT
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Jan 17, 2020 16:44:29 GMT
Post by Figgles on Jan 17, 2020 16:44:29 GMT
"I have no interest in accommodating points of view. Points of view are complexities formed with the help of mind, while the truth always appears in the form of such a radical simplicity that it's difficult to invent things to say about it, and little point in doing so. Mostly, I talk about what it is not. There's lots to say about that." Enigma Read more: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/5427/tenka-stuff?page=148#ixzz6BJ5qlvt1
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