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Post by muttley on Jun 1, 2019 6:17:53 GMT
These are a few excerpts from Niz describing how he became an SRSuperPeep TM. He's quite consistent in the telling each time, although sometimes different facets come up. One that I noticed this time around is that his teacher apparently died before Niz realized the truth, which I find quite poignant. Beyond that, he speaks for himself quite eloquently, with no need of editorialization from the likes of this particular internet clown.
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Post by muttley on Jun 1, 2019 6:18:38 GMT
Q: Am I permitted to ask you how did you go beyond the mind?
Niz: By the grace of my Guru.
Q: What shape his grace took?
Niz: He told me what is true.
Q: What did he tell you?
Niz: He told me I am the Supreme Reality.
Q: What did you do about it?
Niz: I trusted him and remembered it.
Q: Is that all?
Niz: Yes, I remembered him; I remembered what he said.
Q: You mean to say that this was enough?
Niz: What more needs be done? It was quite a lot to remember the Guru and his words. My advice to you is even less difficult than this -- just remember yourself. 'I am', is enough to heal your mind and take you beyond. Just have some trust. I don't mislead you. Why should l? Do I want anything from you. I wish you well -- such is my nature. Why should I mislead you? Commonsense too will tell you that to fulfil a desire you must keep your mind on it. If you want toknow your true nature, you must have yourself in mind all the time, until the secret of your being stands revealed.
para 24-35 of dialog #32, "Life is the Supreme Guru" in I AM THAT
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Post by muttley on Jun 1, 2019 6:19:33 GMT
Niz: Your own self is your ultimate teacher (sadguru). The outer teacher (Guru) is merely a milestone. It is only your inner teacher, that will walk with you to the goal, for he is the goal.
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Q: Please tell me which road to self-realisation is the shortest.
Niz: No way is short or long, but some people are more in earnest and some are less. I can tell you about myself. I was a simple man, but I trusted my Guru. What he told me to do, I did. He told me toconcentrate on 'I am' -- I did. He told me that I am beyond all perceivables and conceivables -- I believed. I gave him my heart and soul, my entire attention and the whole of my spare time (I had to work to keep my family alive). As a result of faith and earnest application, I realised my self(swarupa) within three years. You may choose any way that suits you; your earnestness will determine the rate of progress.
Q: No hint for me?
Niz: Establish yourself firmly in the awareness of 'I am'. This is the beginning and also the end of all endeavour.
para's 48 and 77-80, dialog #16, "Desirelessness, the Highest Bliss", in I AM THAT
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Post by muttley on Jun 1, 2019 6:22:02 GMT
Q: How did you come to it?
Niz: By my trust in my Guru. He told me 'You alone are' and I did not doubt him. I was merely puzzling over it, until I realised that it is absolutely true.
Q: Conviction by repetition?
Niz: By self-realisation. I found that I am conscious and happy absolutely and only by mistake Ithought I owed being- consciousness-bliss to the body and the world of bodies.
Q: You are not a learned man. You have not read much and what you read, or heard did perhaps not contradict itself. I am fairly well educated and have read a lot and I found that books and teachers contradict each other hopelessly. Hence whatever I read or hear, I take it in a state of doubt. 'It may be so, it may not be so' is my first reaction. And as my mind is unable to decide what is true and what is not, I am left high and dry with my doubts. In Yoga a doubting mind is at a tremendous disadvantage.
Niz: I am glad to hear it; but my Guru too taught me to doubt -- everything and absolutely. He said: 'deny existence to everything except your self.' Through desire you have created the world with its pains and pleasures.
para 65-70 of dialog #23, "Discrimination Leads to Detachment", in I AM THAT
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Post by muttley on Jun 1, 2019 6:23:20 GMT
Q: Are we permitted to request you to tell us the manner of your realisation?
Niz: Somehow it was very simple and easy in my case. My Guru, before he died, told me: Believe me, you are the Supreme Reality. Don't doubt my words, don't disbelieve me. I am telling you the truth -- act on it. I could not forget his words and by not forgetting -- I have realised.
Q: But what were you actually doing?
Niz: Nothing special. I lived my life, plied my trade, looked after my family, and every free moment I would spend just remembering my Guru and his words. He died soon after and I had only the memory to fall back on. It was enough.
Q: It must have been the grace and power of your Guru.
Niz: His words were true and so they came true. True words always come true. My Guru did nothing; his words acted because they were true. Whatever I did, came from within, un-asked and unexpected.
Q: The Guru started a process without taking any part in it?
Niz: Put it as you like. Things happen as they happen -- who can tell why and how? I did nothing deliberately. All came by itself -- the desire to let go, to be alone, to go within.
Q: You made no efforts whatsoever?
Niz: None. Believe it or not, I was not even anxious to realise. He only told me that I am the Supreme and then died. I just could not disbelieve him. The rest happened by itself. I found myself changing -- that is all. As a matter of fact, I was astonished. But a desire arose in me to verify his words. I was so sure that he, could not possibly have told a lie, that I felt I shall either realise the full meaning of his words or die. I was feeling quite determined, but did not know what to do. I would spend hours thinking of him and his assurance, not arguing, but just remembering what he told me.
Q: What happened to you then? How did you know that you are the Supreme?
Niz: Nobody came to tell me. Nor was I told so inwardly. In fact, it was only in the beginning when I was making efforts, that I was passing through some strange experiences; seeing lights, hearing voices, meeting gods and goddesses and conversing with them. Once the Guru told me: 'You are the Supreme Reality', I ceased having visions and trances and became very quiet and simple. I found myself desiring and knowing less and less, until I could say in utter astonishment: 'I know nothing, I want nothing.'
para 1-12 of dialog #78, "All Knowledge is Ignorance" in I AM THAT
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