Post by Figgles on Mar 23, 2019 21:13:17 GMT
These are terms that throughout the years have arisen in these conversations. But what do they really mean? I think like many terms used in spiritual talk, the term 'abidance' on the face of things has a sort of 'grandiose' quality that places it beyond comparison with or capture by 'layman's' terms, but really, those terms can be easily understood using different wording.
To abide in mind means to be captive to/captured by/ mind. Abidance in mind is equal to being asleep...failing to see that the world is but an ephemeral arising within/to that which fundamentally abides the entirety of arising mind/the phenomenal.
The term 'non-abidance' is imo, a sort of misnomer. Because there is no middle ground. Either there is abidance in mind, or there is abidance in Being. To say that one is not abiding in mind, but also not abiding in being, just doesn't work. So, it's kind of a nonsense.
Abidance in being means anchored in Truth. It means mind in it's totality is seen for what it is; an Arising to/within being, with no independent substance/existence of it's own.
It's been suggested on ST that those of us who assert 'not knowing' are stuck on one small facet of awakening/SR and should just let it go. But the divergence on this seeming one point, is actually indicative of a much larger divide...a huge divide actually. What's in play is the difference between abiding in mind vs. abiding in Being.
To take relative truths as Truth is to abide in mind. To insist that appearing things 'have, are filled with, infused with, are made of' a particularly identifiable thing, quality or property, is to abide in mind. To insist that Being must necessarily have quality is to abide in mind.
Abidance in being means the entirety of the phenomenal world arises within me. No separation. But it does not mean that I then go back to minding, to know something for certain about what those appearing things 'have in them.'
Abidance in being means no longer mistaking that which is an ephemeral arising for something other than that. Abidance in being = Abidance in Truth. All relative truths, arise to/within that and take their place. They are not denied or rejected, but they are always trumped by Transcendent Truth.
To abide in mind means to be captive to/captured by/ mind. Abidance in mind is equal to being asleep...failing to see that the world is but an ephemeral arising within/to that which fundamentally abides the entirety of arising mind/the phenomenal.
The term 'non-abidance' is imo, a sort of misnomer. Because there is no middle ground. Either there is abidance in mind, or there is abidance in Being. To say that one is not abiding in mind, but also not abiding in being, just doesn't work. So, it's kind of a nonsense.
Abidance in being means anchored in Truth. It means mind in it's totality is seen for what it is; an Arising to/within being, with no independent substance/existence of it's own.
It's been suggested on ST that those of us who assert 'not knowing' are stuck on one small facet of awakening/SR and should just let it go. But the divergence on this seeming one point, is actually indicative of a much larger divide...a huge divide actually. What's in play is the difference between abiding in mind vs. abiding in Being.
To take relative truths as Truth is to abide in mind. To insist that appearing things 'have, are filled with, infused with, are made of' a particularly identifiable thing, quality or property, is to abide in mind. To insist that Being must necessarily have quality is to abide in mind.
Abidance in being means the entirety of the phenomenal world arises within me. No separation. But it does not mean that I then go back to minding, to know something for certain about what those appearing things 'have in them.'
Abidance in being means no longer mistaking that which is an ephemeral arising for something other than that. Abidance in being = Abidance in Truth. All relative truths, arise to/within that and take their place. They are not denied or rejected, but they are always trumped by Transcendent Truth.