Post by Figgles on Sept 15, 2020 17:29:31 GMT
Reefs: It did come up before, I think in some dialogs with Figgles. I think I've explained this before that I can use the term alignment in two different contexts, the absolute context and the relative context.
Alignment in the relative context is basically the different levels of flow experience, with varying degrees of a self being present. That kind of alignment depends entirely on your focus. That's why it is conditional. And if you want to be healthy, wealthy and wise in this world, that's what you should go for. You can basically gauge your progress with that kind of alignment by using the emotional scale, anything beyond boredom would be considered succeeding.
Alignment in the absolute context is basically what we call the natural state, the PTPAU or cabbage (hehe), I sometimes call it true alignment. It's probably best described as quiet peacefulness, and that's not on the emotional scale, because it's not referring to an emotion. There is also no self present, so becoming healthy, wealthy and wise, while possible, wouldn't even arise as a topic. True alignment happens independently of focus and is therefore unconditional, spontaneous actually.
So alignment on the relative level can lead to some profound insights about the simulation on a functional level, like QM, LOA, ESP, channeling etc. A lot of inventors or creative people actually know how to create such an insight conducive environment and can use it accordingly. But since it is a function on the relative level, the (false) core assumptions of the relative realm itself like individual doership remain untouched.
Alignment on the absolute level is what we usually associate with a realization or with the aftermath of a realization. It's entirely spontaneous, it cannot be planned or induced. And it actually doesn't have to, because it's always there in the background. So in that sense it is synonymous with the impersonal perspective, which in a way is always the default fallback perspective. And only from that perspective the relative realm can be seen for what it is. So that's where realizations happen.
But you are probably going to disagree with my A vs. B presentation and trying to blur some lines that I don't want to see blurred.
Alignment in the relative context is basically the different levels of flow experience, with varying degrees of a self being present. That kind of alignment depends entirely on your focus. That's why it is conditional. And if you want to be healthy, wealthy and wise in this world, that's what you should go for. You can basically gauge your progress with that kind of alignment by using the emotional scale, anything beyond boredom would be considered succeeding.
Alignment in the absolute context is basically what we call the natural state, the PTPAU or cabbage (hehe), I sometimes call it true alignment. It's probably best described as quiet peacefulness, and that's not on the emotional scale, because it's not referring to an emotion. There is also no self present, so becoming healthy, wealthy and wise, while possible, wouldn't even arise as a topic. True alignment happens independently of focus and is therefore unconditional, spontaneous actually.
So alignment on the relative level can lead to some profound insights about the simulation on a functional level, like QM, LOA, ESP, channeling etc. A lot of inventors or creative people actually know how to create such an insight conducive environment and can use it accordingly. But since it is a function on the relative level, the (false) core assumptions of the relative realm itself like individual doership remain untouched.
Alignment on the absolute level is what we usually associate with a realization or with the aftermath of a realization. It's entirely spontaneous, it cannot be planned or induced. And it actually doesn't have to, because it's always there in the background. So in that sense it is synonymous with the impersonal perspective, which in a way is always the default fallback perspective. And only from that perspective the relative realm can be seen for what it is. So that's where realizations happen.
But you are probably going to disagree with my A vs. B presentation and trying to blur some lines that I don't want to see blurred.
In both cases, A/B, what we're really talking about is absence vs. presence of imagined separation.
In the non-SR....the SVP, separation is still very much in play in general, however, even then, there are times where the SVP isn't right at the forefront of things and thus, we can say that separation isn't right at the forefront. Even those most deeply convinced of their personhood have moments where that slips a bit, and in that, personal, deep judgements are suspended, a lighter view of things is taken, and experience flows more freely. Peace will continue to be relative...to come and go....as so long as there's an SVP, mis-alignment of some degree, will be the case.
But in the SR, separation is no longer an issue and thus, there is nothing obscuring Truth anymore...nothing mis-aligning....no fundamental judgement regarding whatever might arise/appear in experience.Thus, "alignment or lack thereof" is a non-issue post SR. All "mis-alignment" in the non-SR is, is the presence of an SVP....the mistake of believing in separation.....fundamental wrongness imagined to be an actual possibility.
You cannot look to the content of a sages experience to then say: Oh look, he's become mis-aligned and you can tell because he has cancer!...or because he appears to be sad.....or he's behaving in a way that signals to you that he's not completely hunky-dory about what's going on.
It's never the conditions themselves that are 'mis-aligned' with Truth, and even in the non-SR, it never was the conditions themselves that were the real problem.... rather, it's taking separation to be actual....judging the conditions as fundamentally wrong.
It's going too far to say that a sage no longer cares at all about appearing conditions, but his caring/interest/concern no longer has the false seeing of separation behind it, which means, so long as SR is abiding, there won't be/cannot be such a depth of caring that suffering will arise.
Absent suffering and with full clarity of the fundamental perfection of the unfolding, there's no longer an urge to try to control the unfolding.....it's understood that there is no separate 'me' who can control his thoughts/feelings/focus for the purpose of causing something to appear in a different way than how it would otherwise appear. Stuff still gets done....urges and intents flower into effortless action, but there's no longer a 'someone/something' in play to the extent that there could be a "misalignment" with what you really are.
And this struck me as off:
"There is also no self present, so becoming healthy, wealthy and wise, while possible, wouldn't even arise as a topic."
Surely you are not suggesting that post SR, bodily health, finances, are never again considered...no interest at all there?
Fact is, the absence of an SVP, absence of identification with (s)elf/entity, does not mean the end of the 'experience of' a body...a mind....of finances, etc....while I would agree, those interests won't arise to the degree where they become of great/grave concern, it's entirely possible they will continue to arise post SR....absent the SVP.