Tenka
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Post by Tenka on Aug 11, 2017 19:15:22 GMT
Haven't really followed the story behind Jed at all . There obviously seems a weird energy at play . Does he say he is S.R? I would say that if he was, why all the mystery, sounds a little daft to me . Just be who you are, innit . Yeah Tenka, that's always been my issue too with the whole secrecy thing. It allows him to claim (well, sort of claim, as it could be argued that the Jed character is fictional) that he's Enlightened (& yes, I'm pretty sure he also says no person gets enlightened, blah blah...) without having to expose himself in any way, which means, as a spiritual teacher, passing the scrutiny of judging eyes, which is always inevitable to some degree if you're gonna put yourself out there, as one who is SR, enlightened. My main question with Tano's expose, is whether she actually has the right guy or not. As I see it, There's not much evidence that the dude who started the forum actually is the author of the books. I am not really bothered if she has got the right guy or not . . It's a bit weird and it's something I wouldn't give 5 mins of my life looking at
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 1:00:07 GMT
Aren't we already whoever or whatever we are? We don't have to do anything about that , isn't it? We don't tell flowers to just be who they are. Yes we are already what we are. Make sure to tell that to any seekers you meet and they will instantly awake and stop suffering isn't it? Anything is possible if you believe Andy and Enigma...hehe
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 11:20:54 GMT
Yes we are already what we are. Make sure to tell that to any seekers you meet and they will instantly awake and stop suffering isn't it? Anything is possible if you believe Andy and Enigma...hehe Thats tremendous joke, thank you
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 16:15:06 GMT
For those of you who remember Tano from ST Forum, she has authored an ongoing story on a web site where she goes into great detail to 'out' a man she is convinced is the author of the Jed McKenna series of books. The website is really well put together....no doubt, she's driven to show he world what she deems to be "the real face" of Jed McKenna.... I've always had mixed feelings towards the author of these books (based upon the character and material portrayed in the books themselves), and must say after reading Tano's expose, I have very mixed feelings about what she's doing on her website. For one, she's bought into the idea, hook line and sinker, that the Jed McKenna of The Invisible Guru forum., is absolutely the same Jed McKenna who authored the books. I'm just not so sure. I had a few exchanges with the guy who runs the forum, and my B.S. meter sounded pretty strong. I get the sense the guy who runs the forum is capitalizing on the fact that the author of the books has chosen to remain anonymous....and that he's used a pseudonym of authorship. Anyway, in the end, I do not know for certain either way...just my sense of things. Below is a link to Tano's forum...am curios to hear other's opinions about it: enlightenmentmyth.com/jed-mckenna-2/I read Tano's website lately and came to the conclusion that her take on who Jed McKenna is is very convincing. But to me it's a bit like the flat-earth-theory geeks, who are pretty convincing too by the way they argue their point. To me flat-earth-theory might be true or not. I just don't care because the sphere-(round)earth-theory makes far more sense to me and I'm not even remotely afraid of weird theories at all. The questions are (to me): What difference does it make? What would be better/more usefull/more beneficial for humanity, if one or the other theory is true? And the same goes for the who-is-Jed McKenna-question: What difference does it make, if his "real" name/identity actually is Kenneth and he's an old guy who likes to dance with young asian woman in certain bars in Cambodia. In other words, does it make a difference on how good the books as (mere) literature are? It's like the question: Is the Peter Pan book still good literatur when the author would be outed as/found out to be a pedophile? Yes or no? (I'm talking about the first three Jed McKenna books here and not the later three. I think they are not of the same author. My wild guess is that after the first three books another author (or more than just one) took over the name/the brand Jed McKenna. Like as if the "real" Jed McKenna has sold the brand, the "good" name, he had build to someone else to make of it what ever goes. Like as if you sell your company that has your family-name to someone else who runs it from then on with the same old name. Know what I mean? And, as we already both (Figgles and I) talked about lately, the real Jed McKenna (the author of the first three books) and the Jed McKenna of the forum probably isn't the same guy. Which would make a lot of sense under the light of my little theory here that Jed McKenna is a brand-name that has been sold after the third book was published. How's that for a theory?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 21:50:00 GMT
For those of you who remember Tano from ST Forum, she has authored an ongoing story on a web site where she goes into great detail to 'out' a man she is convinced is the author of the Jed McKenna series of books. The website is really well put together....no doubt, she's driven to show he world what she deems to be "the real face" of Jed McKenna.... I've always had mixed feelings towards the author of these books (based upon the character and material portrayed in the books themselves), and must say after reading Tano's expose, I have very mixed feelings about what she's doing on her website. For one, she's bought into the idea, hook line and sinker, that the Jed McKenna of The Invisible Guru forum., is absolutely the same Jed McKenna who authored the books. I'm just not so sure. I had a few exchanges with the guy who runs the forum, and my B.S. meter sounded pretty strong. I get the sense the guy who runs the forum is capitalizing on the fact that the author of the books has chosen to remain anonymous....and that he's used a pseudonym of authorship. Anyway, in the end, I do not know for certain either way...just my sense of things. Below is a link to Tano's forum...am curios to hear other's opinions about it: enlightenmentmyth.com/jed-mckenna-2/I read Tano's website lately and came to the conclusion that her take on who Jed McKenna is is very convincing. But to me it's a bit like the flat-earth-theory geeks, who are pretty convincing too by the way they argue their point. To me flat-earth-theory might be true or not. I just don't care because the sphere-(round)earth-theory makes far more sense to me and I'm not even remotely afraid of weird theories at all. The questions are (to me): What difference does it make? What would be better/more usefull/more beneficial for humanity, if one or the other theory is true? And the same goes for the who-is-Jed McKenna-question: What difference does it make, if his "real" name/identity actually is Kenneth and he's an old guy who likes to dance with young asian woman in certain bars in Cambodia. In other words, does it make a difference on how good the books as (mere) literature are? It's like the question: Is the Peter Pan book still good literatur when the author would be outed as/found out to be a pedophile? Yes or no? (I'm talking about the first three Jed McKenna books here and not the later three. I think they are not of the same author. My wild guess is that after the first three books another author (or more than just one) took over the name/the brand Jed McKenna. Like as if the "real" Jed McKenna has sold the brand, the "good" name, he had build to someone else to make of it what ever goes. Like as if you sell your company that has your family-name to someone else who runs it from then on with the same old name. Know what I mean? And, as we already both (Figgles and I) talked about lately, the real Jed McKenna (the author of the first three books) and the Jed McKenna of the forum probably isn't the same guy. Which would make a lot of sense under the light of my little theory here that Jed McKenna is a brand-name that has been sold after the third book was published. How's that for a theory? Not bad for a round earth theory. Problem is we really do experience a flat earth. Some of us really do experience the duality of Jeds non-dual teachings.
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Post by Figgles on Aug 12, 2017 21:51:08 GMT
Yeah Tenka, that's always been my issue too with the whole secrecy thing. It allows him to claim (well, sort of claim, as it could be argued that the Jed character is fictional) that he's Enlightened (& yes, I'm pretty sure he also says no person gets enlightened, blah blah...) without having to expose himself in any way, which means, as a spiritual teacher, passing the scrutiny of judging eyes, which is always inevitable to some degree if you're gonna put yourself out there, as one who is SR, enlightened. My main question with Tano's expose, is whether she actually has the right guy or not. As I see it, There's not much evidence that the dude who started the forum actually is the author of the books. I am not really bothered if she has got the right guy or not . . It's a bit weird and it's something I wouldn't give 5 mins of my life looking at Okay.
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Post by Figgles on Aug 12, 2017 22:00:29 GMT
I read Tano's website lately and came to the conclusion that her take on who Jed McKenna is is very convincing. But to me it's a bit like the flat-earth-theory geeks, who are pretty convincing too by the way they argue their point. To me flat-earth-theory might be true or not. I just don't care because the sphere-(round)earth-theory makes far more sense to me and I'm not even remotely afraid of weird theories at all. The questions are (to me): What difference does it make? What would be better/more usefull/more beneficial for humanity, if one or the other theory is true? And the same goes for the who-is-Jed McKenna-question: What difference does it make, if his "real" name/identity actually is Kenneth and he's an old guy who likes to dance with young asian woman in certain bars in Cambodia. In other words, does it make a difference on how good the books as (mere) literature are? It's like the question: Is the Peter Pan book still good literatur when the author would be outed as/found out to be a pedophile? Yes or no? Well, in this case, the books are being touted, (or at least taken by many) to be more tan just a good story. Many regard Jed to be a teacher or guru in the sense that they look to him as an authority on what it means to be awake. I think Tano's underlying point in exposing this man (whom she believes to be the author of the books) is to exemplify that being awake/enlightened does not necessary mean being a good/kind/integral human being. I think she does very much regard the dude she's come in contact with via the Invisible Guru forum, to be Truth realized, but it also sounds as though she was initially at least, quite disillusioned when she saw first hand that this realization had no bearing on his treatment of others. Tano made it quite clear over on ST how she regards men who patronize young women who have little choice for financial support other than to prostitute themselves. for me, It really is the same conversation as the one about SR and purification. Interesting.....that is possible. Not bad at all.
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Post by Enigma on Aug 22, 2017 3:17:10 GMT
For those of you who remember Tano from ST Forum, she has authored an ongoing story on a web site where she goes into great detail to 'out' a man she is convinced is the author of the Jed McKenna series of books. The website is really well put together....no doubt, she's driven to show he world what she deems to be "the real face" of Jed McKenna.... I've always had mixed feelings towards the author of these books (based upon the character and material portrayed in the books themselves), and must say after reading Tano's expose, I have very mixed feelings about what she's doing on her website. For one, she's bought into the idea, hook line and sinker, that the Jed McKenna of The Invisible Guru forum., is absolutely the same Jed McKenna who authored the books. I'm just not so sure. I had a few exchanges with the guy who runs the forum, and my B.S. meter sounded pretty strong. I get the sense the guy who runs the forum is capitalizing on the fact that the author of the books has chosen to remain anonymous....and that he's used a pseudonym of authorship. Anyway, in the end, I do not know for certain either way...just my sense of things. Below is a link to Tano's forum...am curios to hear other's opinions about it: enlightenmentmyth.com/jed-mckenna-2/I read Tano's website lately and came to the conclusion that her take on who Jed McKenna is is very convincing. But to me it's a bit like the flat-earth-theory geeks, who are pretty convincing too by the way they argue their point. To me flat-earth-theory might be true or not. I just don't care because the sphere-(round)earth-theory makes far more sense to me and I'm not even remotely afraid of weird theories at all. The questions are (to me): What difference does it make? What would be better/more usefull/more beneficial for humanity, if one or the other theory is true? And the same goes for the who-is-Jed McKenna-question: What difference does it make, if his "real" name/identity actually is Kenneth and he's an old guy who likes to dance with young asian woman in certain bars in Cambodia. In other words, does it make a difference on how good the books as (mere) literature are? It's like the question: Is the Peter Pan book still good literatur when the author would be outed as/found out to be a pedophile? Yes or no? (I'm talking about the first three Jed McKenna books here and not the later three. I think they are not of the same author. My wild guess is that after the first three books another author (or more than just one) took over the name/the brand Jed McKenna. Like as if the "real" Jed McKenna has sold the brand, the "good" name, he had build to someone else to make of it what ever goes. Like as if you sell your company that has your family-name to someone else who runs it from then on with the same old name. Know what I mean? And, as we already both (Figgles and I) talked about lately, the real Jed McKenna (the author of the first three books) and the Jed McKenna of the forum probably isn't the same guy. Which would make a lot of sense under the light of my little theory here that Jed McKenna is a brand-name that has been sold after the third book was published. How's that for a theory?Pretty good, actually. I too noticed the later books are of a different caliber. Couldn't finish any of them. It might also explain how an impostor: someone other than the original Jed, could operate a public forum (been on the forum and it smells a bit fishy there) without being sued or otherwise taken to task.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 17:13:02 GMT
For those of you who remember Tano from ST Forum, she has authored an ongoing story on a web site where she goes into great detail to 'out' a man she is convinced is the author of the Jed McKenna series of books. The website is really well put together....no doubt, she's driven to show he world what she deems to be "the real face" of Jed McKenna.... I've always had mixed feelings towards the author of these books (based upon the character and material portrayed in the books themselves), and must say after reading Tano's expose, I have very mixed feelings about what she's doing on her website. For one, she's bought into the idea, hook line and sinker, that the Jed McKenna of The Invisible Guru forum., is absolutely the same Jed McKenna who authored the books. I'm just not so sure. I had a few exchanges with the guy who runs the forum, and my B.S. meter sounded pretty strong. I get the sense the guy who runs the forum is capitalizing on the fact that the author of the books has chosen to remain anonymous....and that he's used a pseudonym of authorship. Anyway, in the end, I do not know for certain either way...just my sense of things. Below is a link to Tano's forum...am curios to hear other's opinions about it: enlightenmentmyth.com/jed-mckenna-2/This whole situation is comedy gold, that's what I got from that situation. Yes, as long as there are people pretending to be asleep, there will always be mediocre spiritual con men to oblige them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 0:52:23 GMT
Yes, as long as there are people pretending to be asleep, there will always be mediocre spiritual con men to oblige them. As long as there are people fantasizing about there being sleep and wake. Yes, I agree on that. A man and woman were in bed late one night when the wife suddenly heard a loud noise in the house. Afraid that there might be an intruder in the house she asked her husband if he was awake. He said "No"....
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