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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 17:24:57 GMT
I reckon I've got a better chance of finding a unicorn hiding under the bed than I have of persuading gopal that knowing and perceiving are different. Maybe you have a better shot. . That's the problem. Still, if you are the Ruler, who cares?  I did not say that! |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 17:29:40 GMT
He has said that perception and awareness mean the same thing for him. That's the problem. Still, if you are the Ruler, who cares? I did not say that! I've read you saying that too. Then what is the difference? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 17:30:53 GMT
I've read you saying that too. Then what is the difference? Awareness is perceiving act! You both are placing Awareness as an entity which switch on perceiving for some time and switch off perceiving for some other time. But my awareness doesn't have that power. |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 17:33:09 GMT
I've read you saying that too. Then what is the difference? Awareness is perceiving act! You both are placing Awareness as an entity which switch on perceiving for some time and switch off perceiving for some other time. But my awareness doesn't have that power. No no, I know you see awareness and perceiving as the same doing/action. But no, beingness is not an entity, it is not a thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 17:35:32 GMT
Awareness is perceiving act! You both are placing Awareness as an entity which switch on perceiving for some time and switch off perceiving for some other time. But my awareness doesn't have that power. But no, beingness is not an entity, it is not a thing. What else did I say? |
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Post by Andrew on Aug 9, 2017 17:40:19 GMT
No no, I know you see awareness and perceiving as the same doing/action. But no, beingness is not an entity, it is not a thing. What else did I say? You have always said that awareness is the same as perceiving act. I know that you have always said that, I think satch knows that too. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 17:45:07 GMT
You have always said that awareness is the same as perceiving act. I know that you have always said that, I think satch knows that too. Yes, that's what I am saying it right now as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 17:49:23 GMT
You have always said that awareness is the same as perceiving act. I know that you have always said that, I think satch knows that too. I said Awareness is "perceiving act" ! Is that clear now? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 17:58:59 GMT
This is confusing because the controlling thought can arise without being in bondage to it and hence not suffer. This is a big misunderstanding in this discussion and it comes up again and again! Controlling thought is against the witnessing mode! If it arises inner level of knowing hasn't happened yet. The controlling thought is witnessed. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 18:01:30 GMT
He has said that perception and awareness mean the same thing for him. That's the problem. Still, if you are the Ruler, who cares? I did not say that! It's in the ST archive that you say that. |
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