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Post by Figgles on Jul 23, 2017 1:40:19 GMT
The following convo over on ST caught my attention. (And yes Reefs, it would be fair to say that this forum is a spin off of that one...and that I do use conversations from there over here, to expound upon. Fact is, there are still some conversations over there happening that are of interest to me, and being that you've banned me, I cannot respond to them over there....so, why the heck not bring them over here? )
I would never argue that SR makes on 'inhuman,' but most I think would agree that SR does equal the end of suffering. "Depression" by definition, is a state of emotional suffering and therefore, following SR, I would say that 'depression' per se, is no longer even a possibility.
(I may add more later...)
Thoughts...?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 2:15:09 GMT
Well I don't agree at all with zendancer and who knows what this person called Tess really knows.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 2:44:06 GMT
zendancer said: In Arthur Osborne's book, "Ramana Maharshi and the Path of Self Knowledge," sahaja samadhi is defined as, "Continuous samadhi not requiring trance or ecstasy but compatible with full use of the human faculties."
To which reefs replied: And that's basically the definition of alignment. As I've said before, A-H teach how to live a life in flow.
Reefs doesn't seem to understand that sahaja samadhi is a natural consequence of SR. Ramana didn't start working out on his alignment skills. He didn't sit in his ashram and call out, "Has anyone seen my Hicks book?"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 2:56:43 GMT
The following convo over on ST caught my attention. (And yes Reefs, it would be fair to say that this forum is a spin off of that one...and that I do use conversations from there over here, to expound upon. Fact is, there are still some conversations over there happening that are of interest to me, and being that you've banned me, I cannot respond to them over there....so, why the heck not bring them over here? ) I would never argue that SR makes on 'inhuman,' but most I think would agree that SR does equal the end of suffering. "Depression" by definition, is a state of emotional suffering and therefore, following SR, I would say that 'depression' per se, is no longer even a possibility. (I may add more later...) Thoughts...? If they are SR and depressed then they are most likely suffering from eating too much junk food, and not getting enough exercise. Another factor could be not spending enough time in nature.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 3:02:03 GMT
The following convo over on ST caught my attention. (And yes Reefs, it would be fair to say that this forum is a spin off of that one...and that I do use conversations from there over here, to expound upon. Fact is, there are still some conversations over there happening that are of interest to me, and being that you've banned me, I cannot respond to them over there....so, why the heck not bring them over here? ) I would never argue that SR makes on 'inhuman,' but most I think would agree that SR does equal the end of suffering. "Depression" by definition, is a state of emotional suffering and therefore, following SR, I would say that 'depression' per se, is no longer even a possibility. (I may add more later...) Thoughts...? If they are SR and depressed then they are most likely suffering from eating too much junk food, and not getting enough exercise. Another factor could be not spending enough time in nature. Can you be at peace while eating a McDonalds?
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Post by Andrew on Jul 23, 2017 9:29:15 GMT
The following convo over on ST caught my attention. (And yes Reefs, it would be fair to say that this forum is a spin off of that one...and that I do use conversations from there over here, to expound upon. Fact is, there are still some conversations over there happening that are of interest to me, and being that you've banned me, I cannot respond to them over there....so, why the heck not bring them over here? ) I would never argue that SR makes on 'inhuman,' but most I think would agree that SR does equal the end of suffering. "Depression" by definition, is a state of emotional suffering and therefore, following SR, I would say that 'depression' per se, is no longer even a possibility. (I may add more later...) Thoughts...? I think it goes back to what we mean by SR. And in this case, what we mean by depression too. In one way, the line between sadness and depression is thin. I have spent time in other people's houses a lot in last 3 years. Normally the first days I am there I experience their energy imprint quite strongly. Usually, firstly, there is a quite strong mind energy of positivity and being in the world. Next day or two, I break through that and into a more depressed energy. I often have to sleep in the day intermittently. After that, my own energy emerges more strongly, though an imprint usually remains to a slight extent. I don't have a specific answer to the question, but for me, part of my journey has been dropping the strong judgement of different energies. I am still compelled to work with them and through them though.
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Post by Tenka on Jul 23, 2017 9:38:49 GMT
The following convo over on ST caught my attention. (And yes Reefs, it would be fair to say that this forum is a spin off of that one...and that I do use conversations from there over here, to expound upon. Fact is, there are still some conversations over there happening that are of interest to me, and being that you've banned me, I cannot respond to them over there....so, why the heck not bring them over here? ) I would never argue that SR makes on 'inhuman,' but most I think would agree that SR does equal the end of suffering. "Depression" by definition, is a state of emotional suffering and therefore, following SR, I would say that 'depression' per se, is no longer even a possibility. (I may add more later...) Thoughts...? Peeps can take to heart the sense of individuality again . I felt / understood the nature of suffering as already mentioned . The being-ness of Self to then becoming aware of I am . I wouldn't of thought that a peep would become consumed with depression post S.R. butt one could feel deep sorrow for the suffering of mankind . I went through a period of time when I wanted to heal the world and the empathic expression had did bring me down for a while . I don't know the story behind the post, I think the bigger picture needs to be revealed .. Some peeps get depressed cos they don't like who they are or what they have become for example, this wouldn't apply post S.R. so why one would feel depressed would need to be known in this respect / instance . Maybe 'depressed' is not the right word?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 15:28:25 GMT
If they are SR and depressed then they are most likely suffering from eating too much junk food, and not getting enough exercise. Another factor could be not spending enough time in nature. Can you be at peace while eating a McDonalds? You can be, but you can't be at peace and depressed at the same time. Having a good for the body salad, is less depressing then a greasy burger.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 16:38:41 GMT
Can you be at peace while eating a McDonalds? You can be, but you can't be at peace and depressed at the same time. Having a good for the body salad, is less depressing then a greasy burger. Yes, being at peace precludes depression.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 17:03:22 GMT
You can be, but you can't be at peace and depressed at the same time. Having a good for the body salad, is less depressing then a greasy burger. Yes, being at peace precludes depression. I would think then, that if someone is Self-Realized, that depression wouldn't be a problem for them. Just the people around them...
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