Enigma
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Post by Enigma on Jul 15, 2017 14:54:34 GMT
I said I'm not resonating with the idea that a plant, which has no brain, can pick up telepathic messages and interpret them. Okay, well I'm just reporting on what the book said, though the process happens instantly I.e there's not much 'interpreting' happening, the communication is deeper than that. They did one on eggs too. If you boil an egg, the eggs in the room respond in alarm. But if you thank the egg before putting it in water, then the alarm does not go off. Now I know eggs are easily placated.
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Post by Enigma on Jul 15, 2017 15:01:48 GMT
What about lodgepole pines that love the aggression of forest fires, because thier cones can only open up in the intense heat? Are they reacting to agression in alarm or joy? Maybe the plants were not reacting with alarm but humorously to a humans negative intentions experiment. Forest fires don't have an intention though, they are neutral. I think the humour response would require too much conscious level interpretation, I don't think plants are THAT sophisticated. They are just picking up the energy of the intention . If they can respond with fear, seems like responding with humor isn't that much of a stretch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 15:45:21 GMT
What about lodgepole pines that love the aggression of forest fires, because thier cones can only open up in the intense heat? Are they reacting to agression in alarm or joy? Maybe the plants were not reacting with alarm but humorously to a humans negative intentions experiment. Forest fires don't have an intention though, they are neutral. I think the humour response would require too much conscious level interpretation, I don't think plants are THAT sophisticated. They are just picking up the energy of the intention . Maybe, but wouldn't the trees pick up on the sentient animals intent to flee in fear away from the forest fire? I mean if they can detect intent?
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Post by Andrew on Jul 15, 2017 16:35:32 GMT
Forest fires don't have an intention though, they are neutral. I think the humour response would require too much conscious level interpretation, I don't think plants are THAT sophisticated. They are just picking up the energy of the intention . If they can respond with fear, seems like responding with humor isn't that much of a stretch. Lol they'll be enjoying watching Seinfeld next! My guess is that they respond to 2 basic intents or energies....harmlessness or aggression. But I am not an expert!
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Post by Andrew on Jul 15, 2017 16:37:26 GMT
Forest fires don't have an intention though, they are neutral. I think the humour response would require too much conscious level interpretation, I don't think plants are THAT sophisticated. They are just picking up the energy of the intention . Maybe, but wouldn't the trees pick up on the sentient animals intent to flee in fear away from the forest fire? I mean if they can detect intent? They might do, but then again they might only pick up on intention directed towards them. So many experiments to conduct, so little time! I'll be writing a book on this at this rate!
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Post by Figgles on Jul 15, 2017 20:56:09 GMT
yes agreed, and also agreed, there are alternatives for sure.....but as I've said before, I don't see that we can necessarily draw stark lines of parallel between purity of mind and appearing circumstances. There are also stories of deluded, egomaniacs who die peacefully in their sleep. Probly purified, deluded egomaniacs. Haha....I do find that funny...which tells the tale of my opinion on the matter... But as you seeit, could one be so called 'purified' and still be deluded and an egomanic..? I say no....(obviously).... part and parcel of purification is clarity, being consciously aware and mostly present to the moment, thus, no longer operating unconsciously, with knee-jerk reactions from ego. If you compare and constrast that to SR, don't all those pretty much go hand in hand, with it?
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Post by Figgles on Jul 15, 2017 21:00:40 GMT
Yes to all of that...but still....there is a bigger picture where it's seen, there's not a single hair or blade of grass 'outta place,' regardless of what's happening. There can't be anything out of place in oneness because that would imply separation, but saying nothing is out of place implies there is a proper place for everything, which in turn implies there is one assigning those places. (Andy has reached the same conundrum by defining what is appropriate.) The fact remains that disrupting the balance can and does happen. Yeah...okay. I guess we could we say then, the same one who is assigning 'balance,' or lack thereof, is the same one who is assigning 'nothing is outta place.'
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 21:08:19 GMT
Probly purified, deluded egomaniacs. Haha....I do find that funny...which tells the tale of my opinion on the matter... But as you seeit, could one be so called 'purified' and still be deluded and an egomanic..? I say no....(obviously).... part and parcel of purification is clarity, being consciously aware and mostly present to the moment, thus, no longer operating unconsciously, with knee-jerk reactions from ego. If you compare and constrast that to SR, don't all those pretty much go hand in hand, with it? Yes, hand in hand with all being conceptual folly.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 15, 2017 21:29:40 GMT
Haha....I do find that funny...which tells the tale of my opinion on the matter... But as you seeit, could one be so called 'purified' and still be deluded and an egomanic..? I say no....(obviously).... part and parcel of purification is clarity, being consciously aware and mostly present to the moment, thus, no longer operating unconsciously, with knee-jerk reactions from ego. If you compare and constrast that to SR, don't all those pretty much go hand in hand, with it? Yes, hand in hand with all being conceptual folly. I'm not getting your meaning...can you explain further?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 22:44:09 GMT
Yes, hand in hand with all being conceptual folly. I'm not getting your meaning...can you explain further? The whole spiritual seeking movie called 'Awakening', staring us as the principal actors, and which is playing out on the screen of Consciousness.
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