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Post by farmer on Sept 19, 2022 10:19:18 GMT
something beyond or in addition to 'seeing thru the me'
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Post by Figgles on Sept 19, 2022 17:30:42 GMT
something beyond or in addition to 'seeing thru the me' Fully See through the "me person" and the entire shit-n-shebang gets seen through by virtue of that absence..all in one fell swoop.
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Post by farmer on Sept 19, 2022 18:04:49 GMT
something beyond or in addition to 'seeing thru the me' Fully See through the "me person" and the entire shit-n-shebang gets seen through by virtue of that absence..all in one fell swoop. perhaps, but certainly rarely. I think it is a, two shoe, one at a time, drop. but none of this stuff in print means much of anything.. all that matters is how your actual life is going.
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Post by Figgles on Sept 19, 2022 18:33:49 GMT
Fully See through the "me person" and the entire shit-n-shebang gets seen through by virtue of that absence..all in one fell swoop. perhaps, but certainly rarely. I think it is a, two shoe, one at a time, drop. but none of this stuff in print means much of anything.. all that matters is how your actual life is going. If it's a 'two shoe, one at a time drop,' then the seeing through of the SVP was not complete. And yeah, sure, glimpses that get larger...longer, and then culminate in full awakening, do seem to be par for the course for many, according to how the stories go. Fwiw, "being free" does not necessarily mean that life is always going perfectly smoothly....nothing personally judged to be relatively amiss. Even in full wakefulness, the story is going to move up and down in terms of some things aligning perfectly with surface, relative 'likes' and sometimes not. The overarching story/dream is all ultimately accepted/allowed, and that up and downing in terms of relative experience, is part & parcel of that.
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Post by farmer on Sept 19, 2022 18:50:30 GMT
perhaps, but certainly rarely. I think it is a, two shoe, one at a time, drop. but none of this stuff in print means much of anything.. all that matters is how your actual life is going. If it's a 'two shoe, one at a time drop,' then the seeing through of the SVP was not complete. And yeah, sure, glimpses that get larger...longer, and then culminate in full awakening, do seem to be par for the course for many, according to how the stories go. Fwiw, "being free" does not necessarily mean that life is always going perfectly smoothly....nothing personally judged to be relatively amiss. Even in full wakefulness, the story is going to move up and down in terms of some things aligning perfectly with surface, relative 'likes' and sometimes not. The overarching story/dream is all ultimately accepted/allowed, and that up and downing in terms of relative experience, is part & parcel of that. it actually goes very smoothly no serious problems or complaints at all really
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Post by Figgles on Sept 19, 2022 22:48:30 GMT
If it's a 'two shoe, one at a time drop,' then the seeing through of the SVP was not complete. And yeah, sure, glimpses that get larger...longer, and then culminate in full awakening, do seem to be par for the course for many, according to how the stories go. Fwiw, "being free" does not necessarily mean that life is always going perfectly smoothly....nothing personally judged to be relatively amiss. Even in full wakefulness, the story is going to move up and down in terms of some things aligning perfectly with surface, relative 'likes' and sometimes not. The overarching story/dream is all ultimately accepted/allowed, and that up and downing in terms of relative experience, is part & parcel of that. it actually goes very smoothly no serious problems or complaints at all really Good to hear...but if that should change, it doesn't necessarily mean SR/wakefulness is no longer. Wakefulness can abide alongside the temporal experience of a somewhat bumpy road just fine.
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Post by farmer on Sept 19, 2022 23:18:31 GMT
it actually goes very smoothly no serious problems or complaints at all really Good to hear...but if that should change, it doesn't necessarily mean SR/wakefulness is no longer. Wakefulness can abide alongside the temporal experience of a somewhat bumpy road just fine. no bumpy roads that I can see but sure whatever good luck have fun and be sure to stay away from horny Marvin
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Post by Figgles on Sept 19, 2022 23:31:47 GMT
Good to hear...but if that should change, it doesn't necessarily mean SR/wakefulness is no longer. Wakefulness can abide alongside the temporal experience of a somewhat bumpy road just fine. no bumpy roads that I can see but sure whatever good luck have fun and be sure to stay away from horny Marvin
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Post by Figgles on Oct 4, 2022 16:30:46 GMT
Really enjoyed this one....in somewhat different words, what he's saying is akin to E's "God falls into his own dream." Also addresses the feeling/sense of the me character's free will and put it in it's place very nicely. Spira has a way with metaphor...finding a story to try to point to that which ultimately defies words.
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Post by Esponja on Oct 4, 2022 19:05:24 GMT
Really enjoyed this one....in somewhat different words, what he's saying is akin to E's "God falls into his own dream." Also addresses the feeling/sense of the me character's free will and put it in it's place very nicely. Spira has a way with metaphor...finding a story to try to point to that which ultimately defies words. Gosh, I think I watched that many moons ago, I really was a seeker. I feel for the girl asking the question, it’s hard to get from the mind. Yes Spira has a lovely way with words.
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