Post by johan on Feb 28, 2018 19:05:24 GMT
Real truth about synchronicity?
We probably have to move this question to the side and get back to it as soon as we addressed some other stuff first so that everything will make more sense and fall better in place.
For starters, I am a simple man. The folks in my town (and to my wife) think I am 'weird and complicated' but I don't spend my time on meditation/ crystals etc. I am truly a simple man!
The reason I am mentioning this is because I want every person reading to be confident that if I can do it, so can they!
This is disappointing to some because they want to believe what I am saying is true BUT they want it to come from a Guru or Doctor that studied this for 50 years and won dozens of awards for 'this and that'.
Let me tell you something about myself that might help you see why I am on this forum today discussing synchronicity. (Will keep it short!)
There was a time in my life (teenager 15-18yr) where I walked the streets with no home and no family. I had 2 bags, one with clothes and the other with books. I can remember the strap cutting into my shoulders due to the weight of the books but let's leave it there. Among the books was one by Marilyn vos Savant (She was best known for having the highest recorded IQ according to the Guinness Book of Records - Wikipedia.) called 'Brain Power' which I studied it intensely. The book was all about improving mind and thought related skills including ones IQ. I think it will be correct to assume that the improvement I gained paid off in my day to day tasks and also in the area that we are now discussing.
To be honest, I thought the book was going to be about 'magic' and bending things to my will, turned out it was better than that.
There are probably a few things I am leaving out but I am sure that for now this is some form of conformation that I did work hard for the knowledge I have and you can have it too!
Marilyn said, which we can apply here too, was that if your pipes are leaking, do you call the plumber and not the doctor OR call the doctor when you see a rash and not the plumber.
Now, who do you call when it is brain/ mind/ thought related? I am confident that Marilyn’s the obvious choice!
My point, who do you assume or conclude to be the perfect source of information when it is 'synchronicity' related?
You can call Carl Jung (pretending he was still alive) or any other person you see fit but all of them are saying and preaching the same thing over and over again with no real results. If the plumber you called isn't fixing the pipes correctly and pipes keeps leaking then consider a different plumber. (Not all plumbers are equally experienced and qualified!)
My point? Dump what you know about synchronicity and probably your teacher(s) too.
Let's assume we are diamond diggers and finding a diamond is finding 'truth'. We are going to dig on this side of the earth OR on the other side, let's call the one side 'meaningful' and the other side 'meaningless'.
So far EVERYONE (that I know of) are digging only on the side called 'meaningful' (meaningful coincidences) and by now this hole is so deep and full of tunnels that it can actually collapse (Let's assume it won't). Over the centuries of digging and installing fancy mine shafts and using improved methods of extracting the earth's materials in the hope of finding diamonds (truth), they have only found other valuable minerals like gold or silver etc. but NOT diamonds!
What I am saying, till now, I see nothing but fancy explanations, possible wonderful discoveries and a dangerous mine. The only way they will get the results or breakthrough they want is by digging straight down and reaching the other half of the earth.
I want to quote a piece from wikipedia (been removed lately) that gives me a hint that something was (is) missing:
A close associate of Carl Jung, Marie-Louise von Franz, stated towards the end of her life:
"The concept of synchronicity must now be worked on by a new generation of researchers."
and
"In the years since the publication of Jung’s work on synchronicity, some writers largely sympathetic to Jung's approach have taken issue with certain aspects of his theory, including the question of how frequently synchronicity occurs."
Let's forget the wikipedia quotes and let's rather have a look at what I have to offer vs what is already available on synchronicity.
Before we begin, please take note:
1. In the 90's I didn’t know what synchronicity was called and I had to call it something, 'Creative Events' (CE's) seemed perfect at that stage. After a google search ("what do you call it when you think of something and it happens") in 2007-2009 I then saw it was called synchronicity.
2. Some people tell me that what I have isn't synchronicity and that it is something else BUT I have noticed that these people fear that I am diluting the 'magic or mysteriousness' of synchronicity by being able to teach this to others. They also fell in love with the thought that they are special because synchronicity is happening to them on a daily/ wk/ monthly basis. (Happens more to them than others.) I think you get the point that people WANT synchronicity stay weird and unknown, they will even go as far as to hide the truth from themselves.
3. When I use the word 'meaningless' then I want you to interpret it correctly and within context. My view on any moment is that it is special, meaningful and that there is a reason for everything that happens! So every moment is meaningful!
Ok, let’s begin.
I believe that synchronicity carries NO more (or less) meaning or reason than any other moment where synchronicity weren't 'visible or present'. Some of you might think I am about to say that every moment is filled with synchronicity, well, whether it is true or not, this is NOT the point! Fact is, you are wasting your time if you want to figure out what the 'Universe' is telling you when you focus on why was (example) a ‘tree’ the main focus point of the synchronicity you experienced.
Let's use an example and get it over with. (The tree is the main feature in the event.)
I read to my 3 year old an alphabetic book, at the letter 'T' we saw a picture of a tree to familiarize the child where the letter 'T' can used. While looking at the picture we heard a loud noise and it was a tree that fell over on my neighbour’s car.
(In the book was a 'tree' and it relates to the 'tree' that fell, I am sure you get it.)
There is absolutely no more reason to be seen or found in this incident than when you were for example at the letter 'Q' because then the synchronicity would have been voided or missed because Q has nothing to do with a tree.
In case you don't know, any moment or event can carry as much meanings and reasons as you like. If you want 100000 reasons why you did not get that job you so much wanted, then 100000 it is! So, if you want to ponder on an event like the tree just because it has synchronicity involved, then go for it!
(I am glad we also got this out of the way and if you still don’t trust me on this then try placing a bet on a horse or on the roulette table of a number that keeps popping up, especially with synchronicity.)
If synchronicity is meaningless then what is it?
Where is it from?
What did it came to do?
Is it trying to tell me something?
Am I VERY special because it happens to me?
I am about to tell you something that is one of the most remarkable 'tunnels' I dug and this tunnel is filled with plenty of clues about synchronicity.
I like to talk, especially about synchronicity etc. I pride myself to somehow see when someone grasps what it is I am saying or explaining. Maybe it is not a special skill but I am mentioning it for a reason!
Over the years I have noticed people coming in and out of my life, some for a few seconds and some over decades BUT the remarkable parts are how some come as an 'introvert' and leave an 'extrovert'. All I am saying is that there can be a mental wall between us (which he/ she has) and the moment synchronicity happens, then that person shows signs, which I pick up, that something inside them went through a process of 'grasping/ absorbing/ accepting/ allowing'.
This is the one part I have noticed about foreign (or familiar) people coming and going that I want you to remember.
The other part is something worth mentioning because it will show you the possible value of synchronicity BUT I have no evidence (and don't expect you to believe it either) for it being true AND if it is true then it is worth more than ALL the diamonds on earth!
I like having my imagination run as free and as wild as it wants, so maybe this is how I came up with the 'evaluation' part of synchronicity BUT also maybe 'something' placed my attention on it for a reason! Make with it what you want.
Here it comes.
Let's assume you could choose your life's path on/ at/ around the day you were born or since the beginning of time. You choose everything (or everything gets chosen for you based on a certain profile) from the color of your hair to your financial status, EVERYTHING! It somehow happens that someone could have chosen a Billionaires life with all the 'bells and whistles' but somehow it happen that he/ she gets the opposite ('street life'). Let's call him Dave. Dave lives a life he wishes he didn't have and one day I found Dave begging for money or food. Whether I bought him food or gave him money is not the point but in the few moments we have seen each other I have picked up a 'synchronistic event' from him (even if he didn't notice it).
So, what happened here? Dave chose a path (long ago) that he felt was more important than a life with filled with wealth. He chose to have this one day in his life with this one moment where someone can be 'witness' to what happened.
This is how potent or valuable synchronicity can be, one single synchronicity moment can outweigh a life filled with riches.
Another thing that can also play a role here is that we are all part of a universal plan and we all have a role to play. Maybe Dave wasn't always poor like that but I will say that there was a reason for him to receive what he did at that day and not at a different time and place.
So yes, it is complicated!
Maybe if your life is filled with 100's or 1000's of these events you will see what I mean because it is too obvious sometimes how people can bother you until you become a 'witness' to what it is they are there for and bothering you for.
Let's get this 'witness' thing also out of the way. This will also trigger questions on who 'creates' the synchronicity. Whether creating it is me or not me, you or not you, I prefer to see myself only as a 'witness'. It is the best position for you to be in, nothing more and nothing less, it is more than enough! Your next question will be: "the 'tree' was in my mind so it had to be me creating a tree to fall on my neighbour’s car"
See what happened?
If you created it and IF there were people in the car with fatal injuries, would you run to that car screaming "I'm sorry, I'm sorry!" and hand yourself over to the police? Good luck explaining that you caused it!
If it was true that you caused it, would you like to carry the guild? This did not happen to me before but if you think that the Universe is too kind, gentle and loving for something like this to happen, then good for you! These things can 100% happen just as easy as 1000's of synchronicities happen effortlessly across the planet right now.
I always chose for my imagination to explore 'from' the standing point that I am only the witness when synchronicity happens not the creator and it never failed me AND there is almost NO way we can be the creators of it NOT if we are part of a divine plan.
Guys, we are NOT only getting closer to know how synchronicity works and playing with it but we are also getting closer to discover ‘why no one was able to discover the truth yet?’ and then it will make sense to why no one ever will!
PS. With the ‘evaluation’ of synchronicity through ‘Dave’s’ explanation and the possibility on just exactly how valuable synchronicity can be, I was only trying to show you that I am all for keeping synchronicity’s value as magical and undiluted as possible! In fact, can you give synchronicity a more valuable description?
I will go through my mind and see what else I have missed to tell you like… Synchronicity is a complete package, it doesn’t need you to analyse it or figure out it’s meaning for it to start, end or work better. You can’t make it better by interfering with meditating on it either, in fact, STOP IT!
Our best and honest intentions might even spoil it, so just know that you don’t have to treat synchronicity like it needs your further involvement or polishing! You can think and wish for more of it as much as you like but don’t think you can make it or your life better by thinking more of it!
Your human interference ‘might’ only spoil whatever it is it came to do or achieve with whatever it is you ‘complicated’ people think you know you are doing, hopefully, ‘divine knowledge’ will be involved to bypass whatever you are ‘trying’ with it AND the world can start to become a better place, FINALLY!
We probably have to move this question to the side and get back to it as soon as we addressed some other stuff first so that everything will make more sense and fall better in place.
For starters, I am a simple man. The folks in my town (and to my wife) think I am 'weird and complicated' but I don't spend my time on meditation/ crystals etc. I am truly a simple man!
The reason I am mentioning this is because I want every person reading to be confident that if I can do it, so can they!
This is disappointing to some because they want to believe what I am saying is true BUT they want it to come from a Guru or Doctor that studied this for 50 years and won dozens of awards for 'this and that'.
Let me tell you something about myself that might help you see why I am on this forum today discussing synchronicity. (Will keep it short!)
There was a time in my life (teenager 15-18yr) where I walked the streets with no home and no family. I had 2 bags, one with clothes and the other with books. I can remember the strap cutting into my shoulders due to the weight of the books but let's leave it there. Among the books was one by Marilyn vos Savant (She was best known for having the highest recorded IQ according to the Guinness Book of Records - Wikipedia.) called 'Brain Power' which I studied it intensely. The book was all about improving mind and thought related skills including ones IQ. I think it will be correct to assume that the improvement I gained paid off in my day to day tasks and also in the area that we are now discussing.
To be honest, I thought the book was going to be about 'magic' and bending things to my will, turned out it was better than that.
There are probably a few things I am leaving out but I am sure that for now this is some form of conformation that I did work hard for the knowledge I have and you can have it too!
Marilyn said, which we can apply here too, was that if your pipes are leaking, do you call the plumber and not the doctor OR call the doctor when you see a rash and not the plumber.
Now, who do you call when it is brain/ mind/ thought related? I am confident that Marilyn’s the obvious choice!
My point, who do you assume or conclude to be the perfect source of information when it is 'synchronicity' related?
You can call Carl Jung (pretending he was still alive) or any other person you see fit but all of them are saying and preaching the same thing over and over again with no real results. If the plumber you called isn't fixing the pipes correctly and pipes keeps leaking then consider a different plumber. (Not all plumbers are equally experienced and qualified!)
My point? Dump what you know about synchronicity and probably your teacher(s) too.
Let's assume we are diamond diggers and finding a diamond is finding 'truth'. We are going to dig on this side of the earth OR on the other side, let's call the one side 'meaningful' and the other side 'meaningless'.
So far EVERYONE (that I know of) are digging only on the side called 'meaningful' (meaningful coincidences) and by now this hole is so deep and full of tunnels that it can actually collapse (Let's assume it won't). Over the centuries of digging and installing fancy mine shafts and using improved methods of extracting the earth's materials in the hope of finding diamonds (truth), they have only found other valuable minerals like gold or silver etc. but NOT diamonds!
What I am saying, till now, I see nothing but fancy explanations, possible wonderful discoveries and a dangerous mine. The only way they will get the results or breakthrough they want is by digging straight down and reaching the other half of the earth.
I want to quote a piece from wikipedia (been removed lately) that gives me a hint that something was (is) missing:
A close associate of Carl Jung, Marie-Louise von Franz, stated towards the end of her life:
"The concept of synchronicity must now be worked on by a new generation of researchers."
and
"In the years since the publication of Jung’s work on synchronicity, some writers largely sympathetic to Jung's approach have taken issue with certain aspects of his theory, including the question of how frequently synchronicity occurs."
Let's forget the wikipedia quotes and let's rather have a look at what I have to offer vs what is already available on synchronicity.
Before we begin, please take note:
1. In the 90's I didn’t know what synchronicity was called and I had to call it something, 'Creative Events' (CE's) seemed perfect at that stage. After a google search ("what do you call it when you think of something and it happens") in 2007-2009 I then saw it was called synchronicity.
2. Some people tell me that what I have isn't synchronicity and that it is something else BUT I have noticed that these people fear that I am diluting the 'magic or mysteriousness' of synchronicity by being able to teach this to others. They also fell in love with the thought that they are special because synchronicity is happening to them on a daily/ wk/ monthly basis. (Happens more to them than others.) I think you get the point that people WANT synchronicity stay weird and unknown, they will even go as far as to hide the truth from themselves.
3. When I use the word 'meaningless' then I want you to interpret it correctly and within context. My view on any moment is that it is special, meaningful and that there is a reason for everything that happens! So every moment is meaningful!
Ok, let’s begin.
I believe that synchronicity carries NO more (or less) meaning or reason than any other moment where synchronicity weren't 'visible or present'. Some of you might think I am about to say that every moment is filled with synchronicity, well, whether it is true or not, this is NOT the point! Fact is, you are wasting your time if you want to figure out what the 'Universe' is telling you when you focus on why was (example) a ‘tree’ the main focus point of the synchronicity you experienced.
Let's use an example and get it over with. (The tree is the main feature in the event.)
I read to my 3 year old an alphabetic book, at the letter 'T' we saw a picture of a tree to familiarize the child where the letter 'T' can used. While looking at the picture we heard a loud noise and it was a tree that fell over on my neighbour’s car.
(In the book was a 'tree' and it relates to the 'tree' that fell, I am sure you get it.)
There is absolutely no more reason to be seen or found in this incident than when you were for example at the letter 'Q' because then the synchronicity would have been voided or missed because Q has nothing to do with a tree.
In case you don't know, any moment or event can carry as much meanings and reasons as you like. If you want 100000 reasons why you did not get that job you so much wanted, then 100000 it is! So, if you want to ponder on an event like the tree just because it has synchronicity involved, then go for it!
(I am glad we also got this out of the way and if you still don’t trust me on this then try placing a bet on a horse or on the roulette table of a number that keeps popping up, especially with synchronicity.)
If synchronicity is meaningless then what is it?
Where is it from?
What did it came to do?
Is it trying to tell me something?
Am I VERY special because it happens to me?
I am about to tell you something that is one of the most remarkable 'tunnels' I dug and this tunnel is filled with plenty of clues about synchronicity.
I like to talk, especially about synchronicity etc. I pride myself to somehow see when someone grasps what it is I am saying or explaining. Maybe it is not a special skill but I am mentioning it for a reason!
Over the years I have noticed people coming in and out of my life, some for a few seconds and some over decades BUT the remarkable parts are how some come as an 'introvert' and leave an 'extrovert'. All I am saying is that there can be a mental wall between us (which he/ she has) and the moment synchronicity happens, then that person shows signs, which I pick up, that something inside them went through a process of 'grasping/ absorbing/ accepting/ allowing'.
This is the one part I have noticed about foreign (or familiar) people coming and going that I want you to remember.
The other part is something worth mentioning because it will show you the possible value of synchronicity BUT I have no evidence (and don't expect you to believe it either) for it being true AND if it is true then it is worth more than ALL the diamonds on earth!
I like having my imagination run as free and as wild as it wants, so maybe this is how I came up with the 'evaluation' part of synchronicity BUT also maybe 'something' placed my attention on it for a reason! Make with it what you want.
Here it comes.
Let's assume you could choose your life's path on/ at/ around the day you were born or since the beginning of time. You choose everything (or everything gets chosen for you based on a certain profile) from the color of your hair to your financial status, EVERYTHING! It somehow happens that someone could have chosen a Billionaires life with all the 'bells and whistles' but somehow it happen that he/ she gets the opposite ('street life'). Let's call him Dave. Dave lives a life he wishes he didn't have and one day I found Dave begging for money or food. Whether I bought him food or gave him money is not the point but in the few moments we have seen each other I have picked up a 'synchronistic event' from him (even if he didn't notice it).
So, what happened here? Dave chose a path (long ago) that he felt was more important than a life with filled with wealth. He chose to have this one day in his life with this one moment where someone can be 'witness' to what happened.
This is how potent or valuable synchronicity can be, one single synchronicity moment can outweigh a life filled with riches.
Another thing that can also play a role here is that we are all part of a universal plan and we all have a role to play. Maybe Dave wasn't always poor like that but I will say that there was a reason for him to receive what he did at that day and not at a different time and place.
So yes, it is complicated!
Maybe if your life is filled with 100's or 1000's of these events you will see what I mean because it is too obvious sometimes how people can bother you until you become a 'witness' to what it is they are there for and bothering you for.
Let's get this 'witness' thing also out of the way. This will also trigger questions on who 'creates' the synchronicity. Whether creating it is me or not me, you or not you, I prefer to see myself only as a 'witness'. It is the best position for you to be in, nothing more and nothing less, it is more than enough! Your next question will be: "the 'tree' was in my mind so it had to be me creating a tree to fall on my neighbour’s car"
See what happened?
If you created it and IF there were people in the car with fatal injuries, would you run to that car screaming "I'm sorry, I'm sorry!" and hand yourself over to the police? Good luck explaining that you caused it!
If it was true that you caused it, would you like to carry the guild? This did not happen to me before but if you think that the Universe is too kind, gentle and loving for something like this to happen, then good for you! These things can 100% happen just as easy as 1000's of synchronicities happen effortlessly across the planet right now.
I always chose for my imagination to explore 'from' the standing point that I am only the witness when synchronicity happens not the creator and it never failed me AND there is almost NO way we can be the creators of it NOT if we are part of a divine plan.
Guys, we are NOT only getting closer to know how synchronicity works and playing with it but we are also getting closer to discover ‘why no one was able to discover the truth yet?’ and then it will make sense to why no one ever will!
PS. With the ‘evaluation’ of synchronicity through ‘Dave’s’ explanation and the possibility on just exactly how valuable synchronicity can be, I was only trying to show you that I am all for keeping synchronicity’s value as magical and undiluted as possible! In fact, can you give synchronicity a more valuable description?
I will go through my mind and see what else I have missed to tell you like… Synchronicity is a complete package, it doesn’t need you to analyse it or figure out it’s meaning for it to start, end or work better. You can’t make it better by interfering with meditating on it either, in fact, STOP IT!
Our best and honest intentions might even spoil it, so just know that you don’t have to treat synchronicity like it needs your further involvement or polishing! You can think and wish for more of it as much as you like but don’t think you can make it or your life better by thinking more of it!
Your human interference ‘might’ only spoil whatever it is it came to do or achieve with whatever it is you ‘complicated’ people think you know you are doing, hopefully, ‘divine knowledge’ will be involved to bypass whatever you are ‘trying’ with it AND the world can start to become a better place, FINALLY!
