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Post by 1troy on Aug 12, 2021 18:46:36 GMT
My name is Troy Martin. I am creating a church, which is like a project, to manifest an immortal and demonstrate it as a solution to solving every problem on earth including aging and death. Before I tell you about this project I'd like to say something first about how it came about being that its rather unique. You can also consider this my intro.
In 2007when I was a truth seeker working to figure out the universe and what life was about, I witnessed an apparition of a man who showed me that the physical universe is the word of god and that the planet, which includes the physical body, contains information/truth and instructions to resolve death and solve every problem on earth. I put these teachings into practice and started becoming physically enlightened where now the top half of my head feels like a sexual orgasm all the time. This is what a halo is.
This process of walking this path and following a multi-billion year old teaching embedded in life itself creates awareness of the holy truth of life, and so by 2012 I became consciously aware of the meaning of life, the purpose of the universe and life on a planet, why we age and die, and how to become immortal and solve every problem on earth. What causes every problem on earth in human consciousness is also the same thing that causes mortality, and so if a people resolves mortality, you solve every problem no earth (i.e,. save the world).
At this point, knowing how to solve every problem on earth I decided to create a movement to do just that, a group that is activism in truth. A church is a group of people engaging activism based on the holy truth of life. It's not a building or what we think of as a church today in the west. This church's goal is to take this information and produce the solution that will solve every problem on earth, and that solution is immortality.
What I am doing is I created a membership based website to provide an online form of mentoring/discipleship. Discipleship is where a person is guided to become a fully self-realized being (i.e., god realization). To become god realized, you must know literally the holiest of holies, which really means to know what this universe is all about, why we exist on the planet, how we are designed in consciousness, and why we age and die, etc. What's next is you're shown how the universe is the word of god. Like Jesus said, you must become like children to enter the kingdom of god. Physical 3D creation is the word of god. Children mimic what their parents say. Because physical objects move, these movements in the human body are what we mimic on a higher level to resolve the cause of death. Without god realization, it's impossible to walk the path. Without being able to see the voice of God, it is impossible to walk the path to resolve mortality/death. So discipleship is about helping people to understand life (i.e., the life) and see the voice of god to be able to understand life from God directly and mimic it (i.e., the truth). Revealing the universe and life itself as a source of truth is also called giving sight to the blind and facilitating the return of Christ. Discipleship is a teaching/guiding process called the life the truth and the way. This phrase, the life the truth and the way, may sound familiar to you.
What this church is doing is creating a physical property for which members who become God realized and walk the path and can demonstrate a halo, can apply to live to walk the path to become physically immortal and engage this activism. Those without a halo (i.e., the enlightened) can become a member of the website and learn how to develop that state. As a member, you can study the writings and after you've studied them, you can submit questions for clarification or a subject that hasn't been talked about, and I will either answer it in a blog type format, incorporate it into existing writings, or writing an entire new page. So members will help co-create these writings and expand them beyond its origins.
In addition to learning the life the truth and the way, members will come to understand historical-religious concepts like how to walk on water, turn water into wine, raise the dead, cast your staff down into a serpent that swallows other serpents, bring down walls (e.g., Jericho), and understand what the power of the ark of the covenant is and how to use it, become a fisher of men, and more. These phrases are symbolic of a specific understanding and are not meant to be taken literally as if they're magic tricks. They were written in the language of the voice of god, and if one cannot see god is not god realized, its really impossible to understand what these things truly mean.
Right now I have the website built and mostly ready. There's just little details to finish. The website is called The God Kingdom of Troy.
To the forum founder – Thank you for allowing me to post this.
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Tenka
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Post by Tenka on Aug 12, 2021 18:52:08 GMT
Hi Troy,
I wish you well with this ...
Why call it a church?
For myself, that just gets the eyes rolling ..
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Post by Figgles on Aug 12, 2021 19:30:30 GMT
My name is Troy Martin. I am creating a church, which is like a project, to manifest an immortal and demonstrate it as a solution to solving every problem on earth including aging and death. Before I tell you about this project I'd like to say something first about how it came about being that its rather unique. You can also consider this my intro. In 2007when I was a truth seeker working to figure out the universe and what life was about, I witnessed an apparition of a man who showed me that the physical universe is the word of god and that the planet, which includes the physical body, contains information/truth and instructions to resolve death and solve every problem on earth. I put these teachings into practice and started becoming physically enlightened where now the top half of my head feels like a sexual orgasm all the time. This is what a halo is. This process of walking this path and following a multi-billion year old teaching embedded in life itself creates awareness of the holy truth of life, and so by 2012 I became consciously aware of the meaning of life, the purpose of the universe and life on a planet, why we age and die, and how to become immortal and solve every problem on earth. What causes every problem on earth in human consciousness is also the same thing that causes mortality, and so if a people resolves mortality, you solve every problem no earth (i.e,. save the world). At this point, knowing how to solve every problem on earth I decided to create a movement to do just that, a group that is activism in truth. A church is a group of people engaging activism based on the holy truth of life. It's not a building or what we think of as a church today in the west. This church's goal is to take this information and produce the solution that will solve every problem on earth, and that solution is immortality. What I am doing is I created a membership based website to provide an online form of mentoring/discipleship. Discipleship is where a person is guided to become a fully self-realized being (i.e., god realization). To become god realized, you must know literally the holiest of holies, which really means to know what this universe is all about, why we exist on the planet, how we are designed in consciousness, and why we age and die, etc. What's next is you're shown how the universe is the word of god. Like Jesus said, you must become like children to enter the kingdom of god. Physical 3D creation is the word of god. Children mimic what their parents say. Because physical objects move, these movements in the human body are what we mimic on a higher level to resolve the cause of death. Without god realization, it's impossible to walk the path. Without being able to see the voice of God, it is impossible to walk the path to resolve mortality/death. So discipleship is about helping people to understand life (i.e., the life) and see the voice of god to be able to understand life from God directly and mimic it (i.e., the truth). Revealing the universe and life itself as a source of truth is also called giving sight to the blind and facilitating the return of Christ. Discipleship is a teaching/guiding process called the life the truth and the way. This phrase, the life the truth and the way, may sound familiar to you. What this church is doing is creating a physical property for which members who become God realized and walk the path and can demonstrate a halo, can apply to live to walk the path to become physically immortal and engage this activism. Those without a halo (i.e., the enlightened) can become a member of the website and learn how to develop that state. As a member, you can study the writings and after you've studied them, you can submit questions for clarification or a subject that hasn't been talked about, and I will either answer it in a blog type format, incorporate it into existing writings, or writing an entire new page. So members will help co-create these writings and expand them beyond its origins. In addition to learning the life the truth and the way, members will come to understand historical-religious concepts like how to walk on water, turn water into wine, raise the dead, cast your staff down into a serpent that swallows other serpents, bring down walls (e.g., Jericho), and understand what the power of the ark of the covenant is and how to use it, become a fisher of men, and more. These phrases are symbolic of a specific understanding and are not meant to be taken literally as if they're magic tricks. They were written in the language of the voice of god, and if one cannot see god is not god realized, its really impossible to understand what these things truly mean. Right now I have the website built and mostly ready. There's just little details to finish. The website is called The God Kingdom of Troy. To the forum founder – Thank you for allowing me to post this. Hi Troy! You're very welcome and thanks for posting this in the proper place! (most don't). Please feel free to join in our discussions on the other threads. Lots of them dedicated to awakening to Truth.
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Post by 1troy on Aug 13, 2021 4:16:52 GMT
Hi Troy, I wish you well with this ... Why call it a church? For myself, that just gets the eyes rolling .. Hi, Tenka. Thank you for the well wish. I call it a church because it is a church. Here's an explanation.
The purpose of a church is to fulfill the reason for our existence. What is created in the church is what will serve that purpose. That which creates the images in your imagination when you visualize is the seed offspring of the creator in a sperm/egg-like state of development. Our purpose in life is to grow up as a god, a child of the creator. If that 'sperm' or 'egg' does not conceive, which is what immaculate conception is about, and grow (i.e,. path to everlasting life), it will whither away and die (i.e., path to destruction). Because the human body is the primary teaching from the creator, directly, it tells us our relationship with God and each other. The parents represent God and the children are us. All the people on a planet are like sperm or an egg. When they become conceived, they become children of god and when they receive the blood of god, they grow. When they grow, that growth causes conscious awareness of the truth of life. They understand life/truths beyond the comprehension of those who have yet to go through the same conception and growth process. A person who has is to a person who has not yet is called a lord. Only people who live their lives by becoming a child of god and growing up have everlasting life/immortality. Those who do not, age and die. A person does guide another to becoming a child of god and grow up as a god is referred to as a lord (i.e., one who knows truth via experience) and savior (i.e., a person who alters your destiny from one of the path to destruction to everlasting life via guidance). There is the concept of the kingdom of god. The kingdom refers to the family of god, and in particular, the hierarchy of development between those in the family. If a person grows their god body they are an elder to those who are lesser developed. King means elder in truth. It's a masculine term because it refers to the belief system of the soul body, which is masculine. When Moses said in Deut 18:15 that god will 'raise' up a prophet like him and to him you shall hearken (i.e., take to heart what he says), it refers to the raising up of the god body and the knowledge and wisdom of truth that that person attains through the experience. In a family unit, the parents tell their children, especially if they have a big family, to listen to their elder brother or sister. Why? Because we all have to live with and interact with each other in a family, and so those who know lead there younger siblings in areas that they don't know or understand because they are not experienced in life like their elders. IF they do not listen to their elder siblings, then the parents impose consequences to correct them. That consequence is that you cannot become a child of god and therefore your fate is the path to destruction. This is why Jesus said only through me can you come unto god. The only way to become a child of god is for a people to establish relationships with each other based on the principle of the family unit. This is why we start out as seed, become conceived, and grow up, to teach this truth directly from the creator of life. What a church does is organize in this way where those who know lead those who do not know in a hierarchy where the purpose is to guide the blind seed of god to the holy truth of life and actually live it, become a child of god in the family/kingdom of god and live as a god. That's what a church does. Just because something is called something, doesn't mean that that something is real, for it could be a deception. The true name of something is not what they're called but what they do, and the fruit of that, what they manifest, is the reason why they do it. To me, if the truth sets you free as in makes you immortal, if you're not becoming immortal, you're not engaging truth, and if you're not engaging the truth then you're engage falsehoods. If truth and life is the same thing, then falsehoods is death, the opposite of life. To me, if a church does not produce immortals, it's not a church and it does not teach truth, but rather lies. The root word of religion, lig, means lie. Re - repeat, and ion - to do greatly and become. Religion means to repeat glorified lies and become falsehoods. It's technically the agenda of the antichrist, to infect people with falsehoods to deceive them from the truth so they never live their lives (i.e., path to destruction) and the fruit of that is death. So I completely understand why many people who hear the word "church" is like fingernails across a chalkboard, but those organizations, to me, are not churches. Because there are no churches, I decided to create one.
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Post by Tenka on Aug 13, 2021 10:38:58 GMT
Hi Troy, I wish you well with this ... Why call it a church? For myself, that just gets the eyes rolling .. Hi, Tenka. Thank you for the well wish. I call it a church because it is a church. Here's an explanation.
The purpose of a church is to fulfill the reason for our existence. What is created in the church is what will serve that purpose. That which creates the images in your imagination when you visualize is the seed offspring of the creator in a sperm/egg-like state of development. Our purpose in life is to grow up as a god, a child of the creator. If that 'sperm' or 'egg' does not conceive, which is what immaculate conception is about, and grow (i.e,. path to everlasting life), it will whither away and die (i.e., path to destruction). Because the human body is the primary teaching from the creator, directly, it tells us our relationship with God and each other. The parents represent God and the children are us. All the people on a planet are like sperm or an egg. When they become conceived, they become children of god and when they receive the blood of god, they grow. When they grow, that growth causes conscious awareness of the truth of life. They understand life/truths beyond the comprehension of those who have yet to go through the same conception and growth process. A person who has is to a person who has not yet is called a lord. Only people who live their lives by becoming a child of god and growing up have everlasting life/immortality. Those who do not, age and die. A person does guide another to becoming a child of god and grow up as a god is referred to as a lord (i.e., one who knows truth via experience) and savior (i.e., a person who alters your destiny from one of the path to destruction to everlasting life via guidance). There is the concept of the kingdom of god. The kingdom refers to the family of god, and in particular, the hierarchy of development between those in the family. If a person grows their god body they are an elder to those who are lesser developed. King means elder in truth. It's a masculine term because it refers to the belief system of the soul body, which is masculine. When Moses said in Deut 18:15 that god will 'raise' up a prophet like him and to him you shall hearken (i.e., take to heart what he says), it refers to the raising up of the god body and the knowledge and wisdom of truth that that person attains through the experience. In a family unit, the parents tell their children, especially if they have a big family, to listen to their elder brother or sister. Why? Because we all have to live with and interact with each other in a family, and so those who know lead there younger siblings in areas that they don't know or understand because they are not experienced in life like their elders. IF they do not listen to their elder siblings, then the parents impose consequences to correct them. That consequence is that you cannot become a child of god and therefore your fate is the path to destruction. This is why Jesus said only through me can you come unto god. The only way to become a child of god is for a people to establish relationships with each other based on the principle of the family unit. This is why we start out as seed, become conceived, and grow up, to teach this truth directly from the creator of life. What a church does is organize in this way where those who know lead those who do not know in a hierarchy where the purpose is to guide the blind seed of god to the holy truth of life and actually live it, become a child of god in the family/kingdom of god and live as a god. That's what a church does. Just because something is called something, doesn't mean that that something is real, for it could be a deception. The true name of something is not what they're called but what they do, and the fruit of that, what they manifest, is the reason why they do it. To me, if the truth sets you free as in makes you immortal, if you're not becoming immortal, you're not engaging truth, and if you're not engaging the truth then you're engage falsehoods. If truth and life is the same thing, then falsehoods is death, the opposite of life. To me, if a church does not produce immortals, it's not a church and it does not teach truth, but rather lies. The root word of religion, lig, means lie. Re - repeat, and ion - to do greatly and become. Religion means to repeat glorified lies and become falsehoods. It's technically the agenda of the antichrist, to infect people with falsehoods to deceive them from the truth so they never live their lives (i.e., path to destruction) and the fruit of that is death. So I completely understand why many people who hear the word "church" is like fingernails across a chalkboard, but those organizations, to me, are not churches. Because there are no churches, I decided to create one. Well I suppose that a church foundation is no different from any other foundation really, there seems to be teachings that peeps have to follow or they are not welcomed the same as if one believes every word. I am not one for following the narrative where you have to agree and believe what's been said but the way of the world of late there seems to be more followers than leaders. You seem to be passionate in what you are doing and have a belief in that which I applaud you for ..
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Post by 1troy on Aug 13, 2021 17:16:13 GMT
Well I suppose that a church foundation is no different from any other foundation really, there seems to be teachings that peeps have to follow or they are not welcomed the same as if one believes every word. I am not one for following the narrative where you have to agree and believe what's been said but the way of the world of late there seems to be more followers than leaders. You seem to be passionate in what you are doing and have a belief in that which I applaud you for .. Remember Masalla in the move Ben Hur? Him and someone else was talking about Jesus, this guy who has a following. He was like how do we fight an idea? And Masalla said, with another idea. What the antichrist does is take form and slander it. Form is basic concepts like God, messiah, prayer, repentance, kingdom, etc. Antichrist (fake) churches twist the truth about it. On a form level, fake and real churches are virtually identical, but on the level of belief, it's entirely different. I have studied cults and noticed that the main difference is that a cult is selfish and a real church is selfless.
The reason why political interests create and/or support fake churches or spirituality like the roman empire did in the 3rd century, creating Christianity, is because a real church holds the power of the ark of the covenant, which is a power greater than any nation or military on earth. It has the power to destroy evil enslaving systems that deprive people of the freedom to become children of god. The effect the pandemic has on the world is an example of that power being used.
To believe in something means to act upon that something. The only way to know if things is good or not is to try it. Trying requires acting upon something to determine if something works or not. So people need to believe (i.e., act) provisionally in that what the church does produces fruit and if there is no fruit, then you're welcome to leave. There's two ways to live life, the easy way and the hard way. The easy way is to enter the kingdom of god. The hard way is to think you know better than those who do, worship your fears of everything, and not live life until you suffer, age, and die, and then live in a hell where what you value is mirrored back to you until your life is so miserable you'll humble yourself to try something that may work. Most people enter the kingdom of god as some point in their lives, most just do it after they die and suffer. I choose to do it the easy way and I have nothing to do with people who want to do it the hard way. No one needs a teacher, a guide, or a church to suffer and die. People do that very well on their own. My church is only for people who want to enter the kingdom of god the easy way. The people who want to be a part of the church but do not want to learn, walk the path, or enter the kingdom of god, are not welcome. Only antichrist churches welcome everybody because its their agenda to brainwash people with falsehoods. You arrive and they serve you drugs (i.e., caffeine & sugar) to amp you up and falsely create the perception everything is wonderfulllllll, and then you party to music and flashy visualizations like your in a rave. Then some guy shouts partial truths to mislead you into assume ideas that are false using emotional dark magic (i.e., passion, which is often times spirit possession) to act like he's really realllly inspired by God, which deceives people to thinking they're really aligned with God and they buy the message hook, line, and sinker, which is also taking the lord's name in vane, and then you invert the previous activities: party to music and visualizations and then fill back up on drugs, and then leave and go home and serve evil in the economy until you're dead. Pedophilia is the principle of an older, more developed person using their experience and knowledge of life to deceive a person who is lesser experienced into believing things that are not true so that their actions align with the will of the pedophile. And it starts with, "Hey little kid, wants some candy?!?! Oh, you like that? Do you want to some more? I got toys you can have lots of fun with", and so on. False religion does exactly the same thing. "We welcome everyone to our church. We got coffee and cake, a band. Our church is really fun!" In the kingdom of god, those who know lead those who don't so they can understand life and live it. In the kingdom of satan, those who know mislead those who don't so they only understand enough to do the will of evil but not understand enough to recognize evil so they're not revealed. So yeah, my church does not welcome just anyone. Only those who want to live life and are willing to start that process by learning from those who do understand life. If religion has hurt you so you can no longer can trust something enough to try it, then the antichrist won. I don't make the rules. Life has its own design and we align them or we die. I do what I know works. To do it any other way for any reason would only sabotage the mission and goal of living and having (everlasting) life.
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Post by Tenka on Aug 14, 2021 12:30:47 GMT
I would say many peeps are aware of the manipulations at play regarding religion and the foundations of churches . The manipulation of biblical stories etc etc .
I would say there are many sound minded peeps would agree in principle of any teaching geared up towards empowering people and being of service to others etc etc ..
But when peeps learn doctrines and recite them time and time again in a way where they don't listen to anything other than that, then something has been lost within themselves .
It's not a good look but some are so blinded by their own conditioning that they lose sight of some core insights that perhaps are at the heart of Jesus's teachings .
My step nan was a religious fanatic and worshipped in her church for 50 years to renounce it all in an instant .. but that was her and another may embrace the gospels till their dying breath .
So what does that say? Are the teachings false or does it just reflect on the individual and their experiences of life and how they have behaved etc etc ..
Some interpret the bible in ways that suit their agenda, the fear mongering the gay bashing, the sinners must pay for their crimes against God, all passages that are in the bible that give them reason to do and say what they say .
I had a funny chat once with a religious door knocker who got pretty irate when I said Jesus comes to my house and why do I need to go to your church exactly .. lol ..
I am sure that some church goers and do gooders genuinely want to spread the word of God in a way where it doesn't become intruding or controlling but there seems to be some kind of recruitment theme going on and it's like car insurance, if I need Insurance I will go online and find what's right for me .
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Post by Figgles on Aug 17, 2021 18:27:40 GMT
Well I suppose that a church foundation is no different from any other foundation really, there seems to be teachings that peeps have to follow or they are not welcomed the same as if one believes every word. I am not one for following the narrative where you have to agree and believe what's been said but the way of the world of late there seems to be more followers than leaders. You seem to be passionate in what you are doing and have a belief in that which I applaud you for .. Remember Masalla in the move Ben Hur? Him and someone else was talking about Jesus, this guy who has a following. He was like how do we fight an idea? And Masalla said, with another idea. What the antichrist does is take form and slander it. Form is basic concepts like God, messiah, prayer, repentance, kingdom, etc. Antichrist (fake) churches twist the truth about it. On a form level, fake and real churches are virtually identical, but on the level of belief, it's entirely different. I have studied cults and noticed that the main difference is that a cult is selfish and a real church is selfless.
The reason why political interests create and/or support fake churches or spirituality like the roman empire did in the 3rd century, creating Christianity, is because a real church holds the power of the ark of the covenant, which is a power greater than any nation or military on earth. It has the power to destroy evil enslaving systems that deprive people of the freedom to become children of god. The effect the pandemic has on the world is an example of that power being used.
To believe in something means to act upon that something. The only way to know if things is good or not is to try it. Trying requires acting upon something to determine if something works or not. So people need to believe (i.e., act) provisionally in that what the church does produces fruit and if there is no fruit, then you're welcome to leave. There's two ways to live life, the easy way and the hard way. The easy way is to enter the kingdom of god. The hard way is to think you know better than those who do, worship your fears of everything, and not live life until you suffer, age, and die, and then live in a hell where what you value is mirrored back to you until your life is so miserable you'll humble yourself to try something that may work. Most people enter the kingdom of god as some point in their lives, most just do it after they die and suffer. I choose to do it the easy way and I have nothing to do with people who want to do it the hard way. No one needs a teacher, a guide, or a church to suffer and die. People do that very well on their own. My church is only for people who want to enter the kingdom of god the easy way. The people who want to be a part of the church but do not want to learn, walk the path, or enter the kingdom of god, are not welcome. Only antichrist churches welcome everybody because its their agenda to brainwash people with falsehoods. You arrive and they serve you drugs (i.e., caffeine & sugar) to amp you up and falsely create the perception everything is wonderfulllllll, and then you party to music and flashy visualizations like your in a rave. Then some guy shouts partial truths to mislead you into assume ideas that are false using emotional dark magic (i.e., passion, which is often times spirit possession) to act like he's really realllly inspired by God, which deceives people to thinking they're really aligned with God and they buy the message hook, line, and sinker, which is also taking the lord's name in vane, and then you invert the previous activities: party to music and visualizations and then fill back up on drugs, and then leave and go home and serve evil in the economy until you're dead. Pedophilia is the principle of an older, more developed person using their experience and knowledge of life to deceive a person who is lesser experienced into believing things that are not true so that their actions align with the will of the pedophile. And it starts with, "Hey little kid, wants some candy?!?! Oh, you like that? Do you want to some more? I got toys you can have lots of fun with", and so on. False religion does exactly the same thing. "We welcome everyone to our church. We got coffee and cake, a band. Our church is really fun!" In the kingdom of god, those who know lead those who don't so they can understand life and live it. In the kingdom of satan, those who know mislead those who don't so they only understand enough to do the will of evil but not understand enough to recognize evil so they're not revealed. So yeah, my church does not welcome just anyone. Only those who want to live life and are willing to start that process by learning from those who do understand life. If religion has hurt you so you can no longer can trust something enough to try it, then the antichrist won. I don't make the rules. Life has its own design and we align them or we die. I do what I know works. To do it any other way for any reason would only sabotage the mission and goal of living and having (everlasting) life.
Hey Troy, I received your reporting on Tenka's post (his post in response to this one of yours, I believe?)...I see no need to keep it private as I prefer all moderation issues relative to this forum to be out in the open. We do not delete posts simply because you don't like what the other is saying. You were seemingly fine to discuss your church so long as there was no challenging opinions shared in response. That's not how it works on this forum. We welcome civil challenge here....I see it as extremely important actually when it comes to spiritual views/spiritual idea and particular when it comes to someone attempting to organize a group under the umbrella of a singular tenet/belief. Tenka is being respectful and civil in his comments to you. If you are confident in the ideas surrounding this church you are advertising, I don't understand why you'd be adverse to challenging questions or comments about it.
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Post by Gopal on Aug 18, 2021 6:13:10 GMT
I would say many peeps are aware of the manipulations at play regarding religion and the foundations of churches . The manipulation of biblical stories etc etc . I would say there are many sound minded peeps would agree in principle of any teaching geared up towards empowering people and being of service to others etc etc .. But when peeps learn doctrines and recite them time and time again in a way where they don't listen to anything other than that, then something has been lost within themselves . It's not a good look but some are so blinded by their own conditioning that they lose sight of some core insights that perhaps are at the heart of Jesus's teachings . My step nan was a religious fanatic and worshipped in her church for 50 years to renounce it all in an instant .. but that was her and another may embrace the gospels till their dying breath . So what does that say? Are the teachings false or does it just reflect on the individual and their experiences of life and how they have behaved etc etc .. Some interpret the bible in ways that suit their agenda, the fear mongering the gay bashing, the sinners must pay for their crimes against God, all passages that are in the bible that give them reason to do and say what they say . I had a funny chat once with a religious door knocker who got pretty irate when I said Jesus comes to my house and why do I need to go to your church exactly .. lol .. I am sure that some church goers and do gooders genuinely want to spread the word of God in a way where it doesn't become intruding or controlling but there seems to be some kind of recruitment theme going on and it's like car insurance, if I need Insurance I will go online and find what's right for me . This post is reported with the following message by 1troy
Hi 1troy, I hope you know that this is the discussing forum and everyone must be having their own opinion to say. Tenka is simply expressing his opinion, I don't think he is attacking you or your church and you have the full rights to defend your position. So this post doesn't deserve for deletion or moving somewhere. Thanks.
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Post by Tenka on Aug 18, 2021 19:08:08 GMT
With all respect to father Troy, no offence was mean't and like some have already touched upon this is a forum for discussions to be had . My point being made about certain foundations including churches simply follow the narrative and you have to all believe in the interpretation of that to be welcomed .
It's not very christian like to behave in a certain way because one questions the foundations .
In all honesty and with all respect one would have to look at the fuss made when one wants to set up a foundation (as long as peeps toe the line) all is good .. lol ..
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