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Post by Andrew on Jul 22, 2021 20:57:03 GMT
Yes. On reflection for a moment, I think that's what triggers emotion in me most intensely, and they do these turnarounds a lot. Our 'vaccine Tsar' said just a couple of weeks ago that there were no plans for vax passes, had even said they are discriminatory. Now the plan is for them to be used quite broadly. It's the sense of....''but you frickin said...'' that hits me in the gut. The blatant dishonesty. After today's events, my willingness to trust any 'assurances' has taken a final hit I think.. the last straw.... so perhaps the emotional hit will also now lessen. Yes, totally get that. Our premier had promised 'no more lockdowns' not too long before he implemented the last one. It's almost as though they are playing a game of sorts where they are trying to just wear people down.... to perhaps get folks to accept that lying and going back on their word is simply part and parcel of governing. Who knows.... Yes, I think you nailed it there. I had no idea until today that in the 'Parliamentary discussions', that politicians weren't allowed to directly challenge each other's lies. No wonder they get away with it! Anyway, this happened today |
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Post by Figgles on Jul 22, 2021 21:15:05 GMT
You've read about Dr. Malone. Yes, I can only imagine precisely what you've learned. Smear campaigns abound. What I've noticed is that quite literally every dr....every scientists that dares to speak up against the Covid/vaccine narrative, who somehow despite all the rampant online censorship, manages to be heard and to garner an audience, gets smeared to some degree by the main stream players. If it were just 'some' of them, that would be one thing....but, really, it's the predictability of the back-lash/intent to discredit all of 'em, that makes it so darned obvious. Yep. Trust the science... ...No, not THAT science. I think Andrew you touch here on what the largest problem in terms of what lies foundational to everything we've seen since the onset of this Covid farce. Science by definition means open sharing, comparison and debate of contrary observations, opinions/views/theories. The moment that debate is shut down, is the moment science stops being science and becomes dogma. |
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Post by Figgles on Jul 22, 2021 21:20:42 GMT
Yes, totally get that. Our premier had promised 'no more lockdowns' not too long before he implemented the last one. It's almost as though they are playing a game of sorts where they are trying to just wear people down.... to perhaps get folks to accept that lying and going back on their word is simply part and parcel of governing. Who knows.... Yes, I think you nailed it there. I had no idea until today that in the 'Parliamentary discussions', that politicians weren't allowed to directly challenge each other's lies. No wonder they get away with it! Anyway, this happened today Yeah...no doubt...didn't know that!...Wow...that is crazy! Re: the video; Love it! I get tingly/warm fuzzies every time I see someone standing up like that, likely f-ing over their career and standing amidst colleagues, but doing it anyway, simply because it's the right thing to be honest....simply because their integrity won't permit them to stay silent and tow the line. |
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Post by Esponja on Jul 23, 2021 0:34:38 GMT
Yep. Trust the science... ...No, not THAT science. I think Andrew you touch here on what the largest problem in terms of what lies foundational to everything we've seen since the onset of this Covid farce. Science by definition means open sharing, comparison and debate of contrary observations, opinions/views/theories. The moment that debate is shut down, is the moment science stops being science and becomes dogma. You need to fb post this.. |
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Post by Figgles on Jul 23, 2021 16:26:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 17:42:51 GMT
Bill Barr is smart and funny.. but he's wrong about the news.. and 'good news only' is a dumb idea for one, and has failed everytime someone has tried it |
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Post by muttley on Jul 24, 2021 9:55:01 GMT
Here are several potential good reasons: (1) Do you know what VAERS is? If not, if this is the first time you are hearing about it, then why do you think that is? (2) None of the vax are approved by the FDA in the same sense that other vaccines have been, which involve processes that take years. The approval is on an emergency basis, with the understanding that these vax are experimental. (3) The mRNA technology is novel, in terms of deployment, and even relatively novel in terms of when it was first invented. (4) The manufacturers, distributors and administrators of the vax have been granted sweeping and unprecedented immunity from civil liabilities that might arise from the effects of taking it. (5) A significant % of reported new covid cases are among the jabbed. (6) There are credible medical professionals and scientists backed with data that claim treatment of covid with alternatives such as ivermectine is highly effective. (7) The CDC has since had to issue several warnings about potential side effects for various groups, including pregnant women, children, young people who have already had covid and adolescent males between certain ages (I think between 16-19, but might be wront). The effects in question differ among those groups. (8) The stats on survival rate are over 99.97% or thereabouts .. why is there such attention on this cause of death that didn't prove to be even a small fraction of what was predicted, and why should someone pollute their body with a vaccine as a precaution against such a low risk?
(9) The media/tech censorship of these simple facts along with the nine new vax-billionares would suggest that the push to vaccinate everyone and the rather over-emotional characterization of the vax-hesitant including various forms of ridicule and scorn isn't motivated by an interest in public health and well being. That's not to say that everyone involved in the push is cynical - I'm sure most of them actually believe that vaxing the population is a valid public health goal. But, it would seem from these other factors that there is more than just a good intention involved. Whether those doing the jacovidian pushing are conscious of that, or not. I think the current tally is 608k dead in America, and 7 million worldwide (and rising). How many more would need to die for you to stop using that callous data point? Ok, the appeal to emotion. Why are you so callous to all the people who died from drug overdose or overt suicide during the lockdowns?
Try to get present to how you're being manipulated.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 13:18:41 GMT
I think the current tally is 608k dead in America, and 7 million worldwide (and rising). How many more would need to die for you to stop using that callous data point? Ok, the appeal to emotion. Why are you so callous to all the people who died from drug overdose or overt suicide during the lockdowns? Try to get present to how you're being manipulated.
Try to get present to David Koresh comparisons Do you think you've taken the red pill and everyone else is the clueless Mr. Anderson? Extremist views would require that to be true but actually it's not. Actually it's delusion. |
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Post by Figgles on Jul 24, 2021 17:06:58 GMT
Bill Barr is smart and funny.. but he's wrong about the news.. and 'good news only' is a dumb idea for one, and has failed everytime someone has tried it I think his point hinged on the fact that good news only fails....and he's indicating that's due to a sort of human flaw....a strange propensity for drama....and he's calling out CNN for their overt & shameless playing to that propensity. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 12:20:00 GMT
Try to get present to how you're being manipulated. Peeps can be manipulative for self serving purposes?.. I don't believe it  |
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