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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 10:12:45 GMT
quite a few of these stories.. oof.. it didn't have to end this way Linda On Tuesday, the Cape Cod Times reported that Linda Zuern, a former member of the Bourne, Massachusetts Board of Selectmen and a Trump-supporting figure in the local Republican Party, had died of COVID-19.
Zuern died at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston of severe complications caused by COVID-19, according to the report. She was 70 years old and had not been vaccinated.
For months, Zuern, a member of the pro-Trump group the United Cape Patriots, had promoted conspiracy theories about the pandemic on Facebook. She has shared articles accusing the World Health Organization of a coverup of the "Wuhan Virus" and claiming COVID-19 is cover for "globalists" to usher in "U.N. Agenda 2030" — a sustainable development initiative right-wing conspiracy theorists assert is a plot to create a one world government.
Zuern also expressed support for the QAnon conspiracy theory, posting their creed of "WWG1WGA" (Where We Go One, We Go All).
Zuern promoted the use of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment of COVID-19 during a Barnstable County Assembly of Delegates meeting in December and quested whether officials "had looked into preventative measures that people could use besides a vaccine to help build up their immune system," the Cape Cod Times reported.
According to the report, Zuern and her mother contracted COVID-19 while returning home from a trip to South Dakota — a state where Republican-motivated policies have let the virus propagate with little control.
Risk/benefit analysis is inherent to living life and much of that analysis is founded on basic values. I know for me, a 70 yr. old who had the freedom to make a decision to not get vaxxed, who then dies of Covid, sits far better than a 70 yr. old, who was forced against her will to get vaxxed, who then died or was permanently disabled from it. Breaking: Ocean water found to possess therapeutic healing powers Figs: Don't do it you might get eaten by a shark
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Post by Figgles on Jul 21, 2021 17:05:12 GMT
Breaking News 5,522 people have died within 28 days of having a Covid-19 Vaccine in Scotland according to Public Health Scotlanddailyexpose.co.uk/2021/07/18/5522-people-have-died-within-28-days-of-having-a-covid-19-vaccine-in-scotland-according-to-public-health-scotland/"The most up to date figures published by PHS and within the report released by on the 23rd June 2021, and they reveal that between the 8th December 2020 and the 11th June 2021 a total number of 5,522 people died within 28 days of having a dose of a Covid-19 vaccine. According to the spreadsheet provided by Public Health Scotland; which includes the quantity of deaths by type of vaccine and the date they occurred, 1,877 deaths have been due to the Pfizer mRNA jab, 3,643 deaths have been due to the AstraZeneca viral vector jab, and 2 deaths have been due to the Moderna mRNA jab."
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Post by Figgles on Jul 21, 2021 18:29:38 GMT
Researcher: ‘We Made a Big Mistake’ on COVID-19 Vaccinerightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/06/16/researcher-we-made-a-big-mistake-on-covid-19-vaccine/?fbclid=IwAR00lX9h3lzCasqcBr1yFLYTaccSQ26uUAWlkM3M9u0a15fPt2G9Q83YG8kJune 15, 2021 By Dr. Joseph Mercola Canadian immunologist and vaccine researcher Byram Bridle, Ph.D., has gained access to Pfizer’s biodistribution study from the Japanese regulatory agency. The research, previously unseen, demonstrates a huge problem with all COVID-19 vaccines The assumption that vaccine developers have been working with is that the mRNA in the vaccines would primarily remain in and around the vaccination site. Pfizer’s data, however, show the mRNA and subsequent spike protein are widely distributed in the body within hours. This is a serious problem, as the spike protein is a toxin shown to cause cardiovascular and neurological damage. It also has reproductive toxicity, and Pfizer’s biodistribution data show it accumulates in women’s ovaries. Once in your blood circulation, the spike protein binds to platelet receptors and the cells that line your blood vessels. When that happens, it can cause platelets to clump together, resulting in blood clots, and/or cause abnormal bleeding. Pfizer documents submitted to the European Medicines Agency also show the company failed to follow industry-standard quality management practices during preclinical toxicology studies and that key studies did not meet good laboratory practice standards.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 21, 2021 18:47:44 GMT
Risk/benefit analysis is inherent to living life and much of that analysis is founded on basic values. I know for me, a 70 yr. old who had the freedom to make a decision to not get vaxxed, who then dies of Covid, sits far better than a 70 yr. old, who was forced against her will to get vaxxed, who then died or was permanently disabled from it. Breaking: Ocean water found to possess therapeutic healing powers Figs: Don't do it you might get eaten by a shark A more honest analogy that actually reflects the situation at hand, would be; Beaking: A dip in these specific ocean waters found to possess properties that prevent you from having serious symptoms for a virus that you likely won't have serious symptoms from, even if you do catch it. And...here's the waters they want you to dip into;
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 19:29:51 GMT
Breaking: Ocean water found to possess therapeutic healing powers Figs: Don't do it you might get eaten by a shark A more honest analogy that actually reflects the situation at hand, would be; Beaking: A dip in these specific ocean waters found to possess properties that prevent you from having serious symptoms for a virus that you likely won't have serious symptoms from, even if you do catch it. And...here's the waters they want you to dip into; the analogy wasn't meant to be covid related.. it was 'extremely low probability of something happening' related and to continue with it.. obviously.. with so many more people in the water now there are going to be more reported attacks how many people have gotten vaccinated and had no serious problems? how many people took the shot and had serious enough side effects that they had to be hospitalized? how many have died from the vaccine? how many have died from the virus?
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Post by Andrew on Jul 21, 2021 19:57:57 GMT
A more honest analogy that actually reflects the situation at hand, would be; Beaking: A dip in these specific ocean waters found to possess properties that prevent you from having serious symptoms for a virus that you likely won't have serious symptoms from, even if you do catch it. And...here's the waters they want you to dip into; the analogy wasn't meant to be covid related.. it was 'extremely low probability of something happening' related and to continue with it.. obviously.. with so many more people in the water now there are going to be more reported attacks how many people have gotten vaccinated and had no serious problems? how many people took the shot and had serious enough side effects that they had to be hospitalized? how many have died from the vaccine? how many have died from the virus? Well, it's about risk/benefit. There's absolutely no doubt that the vax is risky, the question is, how many lives is it saving? To give you context, in the UK, MDMA is a class A drug. Over 30 years, hundreds of millions of tablets have been taken, and there have been approx 1000 deaths. It's a class A drug because it is considered 'dangerous'. According to the report system, more people than that have died following the vax just this year, so the vax IS dangerous. But, is it also saving lives? If I give it the benefit of the doubt, and ignore some of the experts that speak of the potential of long lasting damage they could be doing.......then yes, I think it is saving the lives of many that are vulnerable. Is it saving young people's lives? I really don't think so. The original question you asked was, is there a valid reason not to have it? I gave you a list of about 18 reasons. Laffy gave you some. Fig has given you some. Maybe Spongy too. Personally, I would say ANY reason for not having it is valid, even if it's one that just seems completely ludicrous. But even by the standards of someone that likes to judge people's reasons for doing things, there are....at least.... definite valid reasons for young people not to have the vax.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 21, 2021 20:19:22 GMT
A more honest analogy that actually reflects the situation at hand, would be; Beaking: A dip in these specific ocean waters found to possess properties that prevent you from having serious symptoms for a virus that you likely won't have serious symptoms from, even if you do catch it. And...here's the waters they want you to dip into; the analogy wasn't meant to be covid related.. it was 'extremely low probability of something happening' related and to continue with it.. obviously.. with so many more people in the water now there are going to be more reported attacks how many people have gotten vaccinated and had no serious problems? how many people took the shot and had serious enough side effects that they had to be hospitalized? how many have died from the vaccine? how many have died from the virus? Okay. If your focus then is to talk about low probability of risk, lets' then talk about the fact that for the majority...those who are not elderly, frail, obese, "IF" they were to contract Covid, they'd be just fine (99.97%)...many would not even know they had it. (Everyone in my circle who I know that has had it, barely had any symptoms....my 80+ yr. old relative, included...on the other hand, everyone in my circle who has been vaxxed, became quite sick for several days after, and/or now have a magnetic arm...and/or immediately started an out of synch menstrual period). We're not talking about giving medicine to sick people here. We're not even talking about a vaccine that was designed to completely stop transmission. We're talking about administering so called medicine to completely healthy people, for the sake of preventing them from having severe symptoms, IF they should contract the virus. The majority have a 99.97 % of survival/recovery IF they contract the virus. The vaccines are indeed proving risky in 'some' cases, so it's just not accurate to call them "completely safe," and there are still many unknowns such a long-term effects that plain and simply cannot/will not be answered until a certain amount of time elapses. The Dr. in Canada here who has been testing his patients for minute blood clots, finding 67% testing pos. seems to be onto something extremely important and for whatever it's worth, I trust him. He has nothing to gain and everything to lose by sounding the alarm...already has lost much.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 21, 2021 20:22:20 GMT
the analogy wasn't meant to be covid related.. it was 'extremely low probability of something happening' related and to continue with it.. obviously.. with so many more people in the water now there are going to be more reported attacks how many people have gotten vaccinated and had no serious problems? how many people took the shot and had serious enough side effects that they had to be hospitalized? how many have died from the vaccine? how many have died from the virus? Well, it's about risk/benefit. There's absolutely no doubt that the vax is risky, the question is, how many lives is it saving? To give you context, in the UK, MDMA is a class A drug. Over 30 years, hundreds of millions of tablets have been taken, and there have been approx 1000 deaths. It's a class A drug because it is considered 'dangerous'. According to the report system, more people than that have died following the vax just this year, so the vax IS dangerous. But, is it also saving lives? If I give it the benefit of the doubt, and ignore some of the experts that speak of the potential of long lasting damage they could be doing.......then yes, I think it is saving the lives of many that are vulnerable. Is it saving young people's lives? I really don't think so. The original question you asked was, is there a valid reason not to have it? I gave you a list of about 18 reasons. Laffy gave you some. Fig has given you some. Maybe Spongy too. Personally, I would say ANY reason for not having it is valid, even if it's one that just seems completely ludicrous. But even by the standards of someone that likes to judge people's reasons for doing things, there are....at least.... definite valid reasons for young people not to have the vax. Yup. The right to refuse medical treatment...to refuse to be injected or subjected to medicines for any reason at all, is a right that must be preserved in a free society.
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Post by Figgles on Jul 21, 2021 20:52:23 GMT
Farmer....the following story is one that exemplifies my reason for trust in one side over the other....this dude invented mRNA technology....clearly 'an expert' in the field, but big tech. is censoring his medical opinion....why? If he's completely out to lunch on his views, a very public, very transparent debate with medical experts who supposedly know better would be far more convincing than silencing dissenting views by simply cancelling them off the internet.
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Post by Andrew on Jul 21, 2021 20:55:28 GMT
Farmer....the following story is one that exemplifies my reason for trust in one side over the other....this dude invented mRNA technology....clearly 'an expert' in the field, but big tech. is censoring his medical opinion....why? If he's completely out to lunch on his views, a very public, very transparent debate with medical experts who supposedly know better would be far more convincing than silencing dissenting views by simply cancelling them off the internet. Yep. The censorship of many legitimate experts is solid evidence that what is happening is about much more than 'saving lives'. If it were really about saving lives, there would be open debate every step of the way. Robert Malone also said a few days ago that he had been advised by a journalist he knows that he should get security on the basis his life could be in danger.
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