Post by muttley on Aug 10, 2020 6:25:28 GMT
.. ♪ is WI .. BI ..GO! ♫ 
The title of the vid below baited my click on this one, although I think the whole "snowflake" meme is, ultimately, unnecessarily harsh.
The content went much deeper than that. At the center of it is this one bit of cultural/internet drama that apparently happened a few years ago involving this University of Toronto prof, Jordan Petersen. Now, I've since watched some of his stuff (very very litte), and I can't say I'm a fan, but tracing the drama conflagration backward (two video's referred to in the one below) helped me understand some of the roots of the madness going on these days.
If you'll notice, a central theme of discussion is the idea of "Post Modernism". An interesting current illustration of it is an apparent Twitter debate on the notion of "2+2=5". The reason I'm posting this here is because PMism seems to me an expression of people-peep TMT gone mad into a mis-weilding some of the ideas that we're all interested in, such as the meaning of words, the implications of the absence of actual limitation/separation, and the emptiness of ideas and cultural constructs, particularly, identity.
Not surprisingly, the whole affair seems to have turned into a snake swallowing it's tail, been several generations in the making, and has apparently produced a generation of 20-somethings with a high population of folks susceptible to all sorts of hysterical mass-hypnosis manipulations, which they ironically call, being woke. The roots of the term "woke", are obviously, in the new-age, which has clear cultural entanglement with nonduality.
One moment of dialog that implicates WIBIGO, and I found to be both insightful, and an echo of recurring themes on these forums about subject/object and the nature of science was the exchange between Lehmann and Jenkins in response to a comment/question from the host at @ 1:01:30. In my opinion, Jenkins delivers a great punch line, although Lehmann and the host are definitely on the trail of WIBIGO, in terms of, shall we say, a notion of provisional, immediate and conditional objectivity.
I want to also say that I'm not necessarily a complete fan of what CIS.org seems to stand for, either, and I know ST lolly would probly blow his top over them folks.
I can guess what his response would be.