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Post by Figgles on Aug 5, 2020 17:35:26 GMT
Closed circles: Epstein signed a will detailing nearly $600 million in assets just two days before he allegedly died. In the will, he named Boris Nikolic as “successor executor”. Nikolic is also Gates' former science advisor. That's fact checked. Wow! Interesting indeed.
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Post by Figgles on Aug 5, 2020 17:45:43 GMT
But tbc, overall, I feel something GOOD is happening. Waking up to the 'nature of the world', isn't irrelevant to awakening. All depends what you mean by 'nature of the world'....and 'awakening.' I am beginning to see that that term 'nature' sometimes gets used to point to the world as an empty ephemeral arising within/to that which abides, but at other times (like I suspect you are now doing) it's a reference to seeing through the consensus story...to a different story. It's important to see that BOTH are stories....both are 'in the dream,' and not transcendent of the dream. Waking up to see that the mainstream media is selling you it's tainted version of things, is what it means to 'wake up to the consensus trance.' It's an awakening 'within' the dream. Whereas waking up to see that the entire world and all it's stories is but an empty, ephemeral arising, is something else entirely. So yes, in that sense, waking up to the consensus trance IS irrelevant to waking up to see the story for an empty ephemeral arising....an appearance only. Waking up to the dream really does not have anything to do with dream content, although, dream content does to some degree shift and change in the wake of the absence left behind in SR.
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Post by Enigma on Aug 14, 2020 16:44:20 GMT
David Icke turned me on to the native american idea of Wetico. Basically a collective psychosis in which the mind responds to it's own reflection as though it is coming from outside itself, or conversely, responds to what's coming from outside as though it is coming from one's own mind. I'm still exploring it, but I see it as what I refer to as unconsciousness, and this is at the heart of the pandemic insanity and how such manipulation is possible.
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Post by Figgles on Aug 15, 2020 0:49:55 GMT
David Icke turned me on to the native american idea of Wetico. Basically a collective psychosis in which the mind responds to it's own reflection as though it is coming from outside itself, or conversely, responds to what's coming from outside as though it is coming from one's own mind. I'm still exploring it, but I see it as what I refer to as unconsciousness, and this is at the heart of the pandemic insanity and how such manipulation is possible. It's cool to see new ways of talking about all this...new terms. Yeah, "collective psychosis/insanity," really does describe it well. In terms of the Covid psychosis, it's been surprising...certain folks whom I figured were at least somewhat more aware/awake to the consensus trance, but I've also been pleasantly surprised the other way too. Hubby is always so happy when he returns from doing an estimate where the homeowner was awake to the scam....and actually there are far more that are awake to it vs. those that are sucked in, which is heartening! The worst 'buy ins' seem to be my distant family...a few really old close friends too, which is oddly disturbing. I'd always figured them to be a little more lucid and as I see it, to have fallen for this, you have to be really, really unconscious. I've been posting about the manipulation on fb...losing friends, alienating family....getting unfriended...2 cousins no longer speaking to me...a post of mine asking about my elderly aunt's well-being, completely ignored. We'll all survive Covid, but many of the relationships likely won't!
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Post by Enigma on Aug 15, 2020 21:23:27 GMT
David Icke turned me on to the native american idea of Wetico. Basically a collective psychosis in which the mind responds to it's own reflection as though it is coming from outside itself, or conversely, responds to what's coming from outside as though it is coming from one's own mind. I'm still exploring it, but I see it as what I refer to as unconsciousness, and this is at the heart of the pandemic insanity and how such manipulation is possible. It's cool to see new ways of talking about all this...new terms. Yeah, "collective psychosis/insanity," really does describe it well. In terms of the Covid psychosis, it's been surprising...certain folks whom I figured were at least somewhat more aware/awake to the consensus trance, but I've also been pleasantly surprised the other way too. Hubby is always so happy when he returns from doing an estimate where the homeowner was awake to the scam....and actually there are far more that are awake to it vs. those that are sucked in, which is heartening! The worst 'buy ins' seem to be my distant family...a few really old close friends too, which is oddly disturbing. I'd always figured them to be a little more lucid and as I see it, to have fallen for this, you have to be really, really unconscious. I've been posting about the manipulation on fb...losing friends, alienating family....getting unfriended...2 cousins no longer speaking to me...a post of mine asking about my elderly aunt's well-being, completely ignored. We'll all survive Covid, but many of the relationships likely won't! Yes, and this is the sort of divisiveness that the bastards are hoping for. As such, I've chosen to keep my opinions to myself for the most part (Except here. I can hardly create any more divisiveness here than I already do. ) I deal with Marie a bit differently. She gets all her news from MSM, even though she doesn't believe half of it. I don't argue with her over the other half because I value our peace more than I value being right, but she'll come around in her own way and time. Yesterday I mentioned that I had just looked up the numbers for Oregon (where we live), and in total there have been 356 deaths in a population of 4.3 million. (Assuming the death numbers are correct and even she knows they aren't). She said "So why the hell are we doing all this?" Apparently, such facts are not a part of the local news update.
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Post by Figgles on Aug 16, 2020 4:19:29 GMT
It's cool to see new ways of talking about all this...new terms. Yeah, "collective psychosis/insanity," really does describe it well. In terms of the Covid psychosis, it's been surprising...certain folks whom I figured were at least somewhat more aware/awake to the consensus trance, but I've also been pleasantly surprised the other way too. Hubby is always so happy when he returns from doing an estimate where the homeowner was awake to the scam....and actually there are far more that are awake to it vs. those that are sucked in, which is heartening! The worst 'buy ins' seem to be my distant family...a few really old close friends too, which is oddly disturbing. I'd always figured them to be a little more lucid and as I see it, to have fallen for this, you have to be really, really unconscious. I've been posting about the manipulation on fb...losing friends, alienating family....getting unfriended...2 cousins no longer speaking to me...a post of mine asking about my elderly aunt's well-being, completely ignored. We'll all survive Covid, but many of the relationships likely won't! Yes, and this is the sort of divisiveness that the bastards are hoping for. As such, I've chosen to keep my opinions to myself for the most part (Except here. I can hardly create any more divisiveness here than I already do. ) I deal with Marie a bit differently. She gets all her news from MSM, even though she doesn't believe half of it. I don't argue with her over the other half because I value our peace more than I value being right, but she'll come around in her own way and time. Yesterday I mentioned that I had just looked up the numbers for Oregon (where we live), and in total there have been 356 deaths in a population of 4.3 million. (Assuming the death numbers are correct and even she knows they aren't). She said "So why the hell are we doing all this?" Apparently, such facts are not a part of the local news update. Yeah, so true. I get that...valuing peace over being right with those that are nearest and dearest. I think many are there....still tuning into their favorite news stations, but not fully buying in anymore...which means it's just a matter of time before the pail tips. Every day during my daily call/visit with my elderly dad, I have to endure his run down of the CNN shite he's been gorging on. I do feel a bit badly for him, because commiserating about what an arse DT was, used to occupy the better part of our convos.....even though I have not divulged to him that I'm seeing things in an entirely different way now, I think he can sense my lack of enthusiasm, (despite my stellar acting abilities.) Regarding Covid...he plays both sides of the fence, which tells me he's not fully bought in either. He talks about how serious and deadly it is, but since March has been out and about in the community, running all his own errands, at least 4 days out of each week, so obviously his walk is not matching his talk. Reefs would likely have something to say about that.
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Post by muttley on Aug 17, 2020 4:15:38 GMT
It's cool to see new ways of talking about all this...new terms. Yeah, "collective psychosis/insanity," really does describe it well. In terms of the Covid psychosis, it's been surprising...certain folks whom I figured were at least somewhat more aware/awake to the consensus trance, but I've also been pleasantly surprised the other way too. Hubby is always so happy when he returns from doing an estimate where the homeowner was awake to the scam....and actually there are far more that are awake to it vs. those that are sucked in, which is heartening! The worst 'buy ins' seem to be my distant family...a few really old close friends too, which is oddly disturbing. I'd always figured them to be a little more lucid and as I see it, to have fallen for this, you have to be really, really unconscious. I've been posting about the manipulation on fb...losing friends, alienating family....getting unfriended...2 cousins no longer speaking to me...a post of mine asking about my elderly aunt's well-being, completely ignored. We'll all survive Covid, but many of the relationships likely won't! Yes, and this is the sort of divisiveness that the bastards are hoping for. As such, I've chosen to keep my opinions to myself for the most part (Except here. I can hardly create any more divisiveness here than I already do. ) I deal with Marie a bit differently. She gets all her news from MSM, even though she doesn't believe half of it. I don't argue with her over the other half because I value our peace more than I value being right, but she'll come around in her own way and time. Yesterday I mentioned that I had just looked up the numbers for Oregon (where we live), and in total there have been 356 deaths in a population of 4.3 million. (Assuming the death numbers are correct and even she knows they aren't). She said "So why the hell are we doing all this?" Apparently, such facts are not a part of the local news update. My town is racially mixed and my neighborhood is probably majority non-white for some time now. I was doing some shadow boxing on the back porch a few days after the riots broke out, and some young black kids cutting across the empty lot next door went out of their way to say "good job!". I'm not experimenting to try to find out how prevalent a movement it is, but many of the casual encounters I've had have indicated to me that this moment is a time of reflection for some people in direct resistance to the dividers.
We've had a mask requirement in public places here since March and I've gone along with it strictly and 100% tolerate people who don't -- in fact, I'll be looking for ways to encourage them. . But I think the driver of this, in day-to-day terms are peoples fears, and it's always better to be gentle with those.
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Post by muttley on Aug 17, 2020 4:19:04 GMT
It's cool to see new ways of talking about all this...new terms. Yeah, "collective psychosis/insanity," really does describe it well. In terms of the Covid psychosis, it's been surprising...certain folks whom I figured were at least somewhat more aware/awake to the consensus trance, but I've also been pleasantly surprised the other way too. Hubby is always so happy when he returns from doing an estimate where the homeowner was awake to the scam....and actually there are far more that are awake to it vs. those that are sucked in, which is heartening! The worst 'buy ins' seem to be my distant family...a few really old close friends too, which is oddly disturbing. I'd always figured them to be a little more lucid and as I see it, to have fallen for this, you have to be really, really unconscious. I've been posting about the manipulation on fb...losing friends, alienating family....getting unfriended...2 cousins no longer speaking to me...a post of mine asking about my elderly aunt's well-being, completely ignored. We'll all survive Covid, but many of the relationships likely won't! Yes, and this is the sort of divisiveness that the bastards are hoping for. As such, I've chosen to keep my opinions to myself for the most part (Except here. I can hardly create any more divisiveness here than I already do. ) I deal with Marie a bit differently. She gets all her news from MSM, even though she doesn't believe half of it. I don't argue with her over the other half because I value our peace more than I value being right, but she'll come around in her own way and time. Yesterday I mentioned that I had just looked up the numbers for Oregon (where we live), and in total there have been 356 deaths in a population of 4.3 million. (Assuming the death numbers are correct and even she knows they aren't). She said "So why the hell are we doing all this?" Apparently, such facts are not a part of the local news update. .. oh, and after all that I forgot my first reaction to this: the forum kids have this quickie meme, "red pill" -- of course, not everyone who uses it, is using it right.
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Post by Enigma on Aug 17, 2020 16:25:32 GMT
Yes, and this is the sort of divisiveness that the bastards are hoping for. As such, I've chosen to keep my opinions to myself for the most part (Except here. I can hardly create any more divisiveness here than I already do. ) I deal with Marie a bit differently. She gets all her news from MSM, even though she doesn't believe half of it. I don't argue with her over the other half because I value our peace more than I value being right, but she'll come around in her own way and time. Yesterday I mentioned that I had just looked up the numbers for Oregon (where we live), and in total there have been 356 deaths in a population of 4.3 million. (Assuming the death numbers are correct and even she knows they aren't). She said "So why the hell are we doing all this?" Apparently, such facts are not a part of the local news update. My town is racially mixed and my neighborhood is probably majority non-white for some time now. I was doing some shadow boxing on the back porch a few days after the riots broke out, and some young black kids cutting across the empty lot next door went out of their way to say "good job!". I'm not experimenting to try to find out how prevalent a movement it is, but many of the casual encounters I've had have indicated to me that this moment is a time of reflection for some people in direct resistance to the dividers.
We've had a mask requirement in public places here since March and I've gone along with it strictly and 100% tolerate people who don't -- in fact, I'll be looking for ways to encourage them. . But I think the driver of this, in day-to-day terms are peoples fears, and it's always better to be gentle with those.Absotively, on both counts. One would think that allaying the fears of a deadly super-virus that will surely get you unless you give up your rights and your livelihood would be a welcome thingy, but strangely, ... not so much.
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Post by Enigma on Aug 17, 2020 16:31:02 GMT
Yes, and this is the sort of divisiveness that the bastards are hoping for. As such, I've chosen to keep my opinions to myself for the most part (Except here. I can hardly create any more divisiveness here than I already do. ) I deal with Marie a bit differently. She gets all her news from MSM, even though she doesn't believe half of it. I don't argue with her over the other half because I value our peace more than I value being right, but she'll come around in her own way and time. Yesterday I mentioned that I had just looked up the numbers for Oregon (where we live), and in total there have been 356 deaths in a population of 4.3 million. (Assuming the death numbers are correct and even she knows they aren't). She said "So why the hell are we doing all this?" Apparently, such facts are not a part of the local news update. .. oh, and after all that I forgot my first reaction to this: the forum kids have this quickie meme, "red pill" -- of course, not everyone who uses it, is using it right. Some think the red pill means republican?
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