krsnaraja
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 27, 2021 5:08:49 GMT
Leaky vaccines are possible but not with the current Covid vaccines approved by the FDA for emergency use. More virulent mutations of Covif 19 virus are not caused by leaky Pfizer, Moderna, Astrazeneca, J&J , Sputnik, Sinovac vaccines other wise health authorities would have stopped using them. Leaky vaccines on common cold virus? Haven't heard of that from news reports here in our country. Maybe only from chickens. 🤣 "Leaky" means that vaccination doesn't ensure a very low probability of catching what you're vaccinated against. Are these articles comparing to Marek's wrong by characterizing both the covid-19 and seasonal vaccines as "leaky"?
What I understand on the leaky vaccine definition is that there are vaccines that compel the pathogen to mutate and become more virulent. Whether these Covid vaccines given at present will lead to that I don't have sufficient data to confirm if these are " leaky". |
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Post by ghostofmuttley on Oct 27, 2021 5:15:19 GMT
"Leaky" means that vaccination doesn't ensure a very low probability of catching what you're vaccinated against. Are these articles comparing to Marek's wrong by characterizing both the covid-19 and seasonal vaccines as "leaky"?
What I understand on the leaky vaccine definition is that there are vaccines that compel the pathogen to mutate and become more virulent. Whether these Covid vaccines given at present will lead to that I don't have sufficient data to confirm if these are " leaky". Seems to me commonsense that the potential for "leaky" is there if the vaccine doesn't dramatically reduce the probability of infection. Isn't that why polio, measles and smallpox were largely eradicated in vaccinated populations, instead of mutating, because they greatly reduced the probability of infection?
How dependent are you for that data from the corporations who have made billions of dollars getting these vaccines mandated, and stand to make billions more by maintaining the mandates of the boosters? Aren't the instances of variants proof by now that the vaccines are, at the very least, not preventing mutation, and given this type of virus, aren't they a suggestion that they are accelerating it?
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 27, 2021 5:48:22 GMT
What I understand on the leaky vaccine definition is that there are vaccines that compel the pathogen to mutate and become more virulent. Whether these Covid vaccines given at present will lead to that I don't have sufficient data to confirm if these are " leaky". Seems to me commonsense that the potential for "leaky" is there if the vaccine doesn't dramatically reduce the probability of infection. Isn't that why polio, measles and smallpox were largely eradicated in vaccinated populations, instead of mutating, because they greatly reduced the probability of infection?
How dependent are you for that data from the corporations who have made billions of dollars getting these vaccines mandated, and stand to make billions more by maintaining the mandates of the boosters? Aren't the instances of variants proof by now that the vaccines are, at the very least, not preventing mutation, and given this type of virus, aren't they a suggestion that they are accelerating it?
Vaccines use for small pox, measles, chicken pox are not leaky because we no longer have mutations for using them. Once the recipient is given these vaccines guarantee lifetime immunity, a standard definition for non-leaky vaccines. For leaky ones, these vaccines prevent symptoms but it does not mean one who has been given wont infect or transmit the disease. So, if the vaccines for Covid can not guarantee a long term/ life time immunity, by definition these vaccines are leaky because it does not prevent one who has been given infect or transmit the virus to those who are not vaccinated. To rewind, what I been telling in this forum is that the Covid vaccines are not perfect.Therefore using them entails casualties. What I do not agree is that there are people in this forum predicting that there will be billions of deaths to anticipate for using these vaccines, which they believe are leaky. Whatever will be, will be. The future is not ours to see. Que Sera Sera. Non-dualism I feel has been put in the sidelines. What is left are Quotes from the Masters posted from time to time. What a pity. |
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 27, 2021 20:08:45 GMT
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 28, 2021 20:27:55 GMT
Krsna is the Truth
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Post by krsnaraja on Oct 30, 2021 2:10:08 GMT
Dedicated to all the Unvaccinated out there..
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Post by krsnaraja on Nov 2, 2021 22:36:37 GMT
"Today November 3 is my 64th birthday.
While celebrating this wonderful moment,
I invite you all to join and sing this song with
me. "
Dr Melvin G. Mabalay
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Post by krsnaraja on Nov 4, 2021 0:54:45 GMT
People in this forum are going in circles. 😁
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Post by Figgles on Dec 17, 2021 6:08:57 GMT
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Post by Esponja on Dec 17, 2021 14:07:34 GMT
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