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Jan 9, 2022 19:57:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2022 19:57:20 GMT
Alito is a little pussy, huh? 'If we rule against the mandate are you going to say that the Court is killing people?' or what about Gorsuck... who literally said the flu kills "hundreds of thousands of people a year" (when its actually 36k on average) this is what happens when one gets their information from Fox n all... a mind corrupted by lies, hyperbole, exaggerations and non-literal commentaries tee hee yer gal Sandy had her shit all fucked up ...  .. that's what she gets for being one of CNN/MSNBC's last 213 viewers ... that fucking bitch is gonna light your collective asses up with dissents for the foreseeable future... |
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Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 10, 2022 3:30:22 GMT
With regard to the vids, specifically, it's a bitterly wry and amusing point: "chipping" seems so far out to J.Q.Public that of course they dismiss it as a conspiracy theory. Perhaps it would have helped if science fiction had been included as a mandatory part of the curriculum decades ago, because authors have been exploring these ideas since at least the '60's. Orwell and Huxley's predictions for example. Rather chilling. Yep. I can't tell you the amount of times I've started to talk about a conspiracy to someone, and within a minute they retort back with a quip about microchips. I very much distanced myself from the idea because it was doing more harm than good in conversation. There's a sort of tragic-comedy to the fact that something even I rejected as being too extreme a conspiracy, is so much closer to being normalized. I also find it interesting that it seems to be coming from the Scandinavian corner of the world. What is it about their culture that makes them more agreeable to the idea? I don't know. Denmark have used digital ID's for a few years....it's been normalized, and I've had several Danish people say to me....'it's nothing to be concerned about'. It's also crossed my mind that Sweden ignored much of the restrictions and measures because it was always known that they could easily make the leap to the QR way of life and microchips etc. In most of the world, governments have had to work harder to change the way people think, edging folks towards the new technologies, creating desperation. In England, the government have used the 'false dichotomy' quite masterfully at times....''do you want vaccine passes or lockdowns? That's the choice we face''. I've seen Biden try and do the same, but I don't think it's quite as convincing  www.newsweek.com/people-get-microchips-implanted-that-include-vaccine-records-amid-new-covid-restrictions-1655916So they go from a smug, dismissive "ha! ha! conspiracy theory .. I'm smart yer dumb and krazy .." to "what's the big deal?". Are you familiar with the Greek myth of Cassandra? 
I can't decide if that's either a sort of mass sociopathy or a reaction similar to an abused wife.
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Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 10, 2022 3:33:49 GMT
.. also, this reminds me of another point Malone made: one of the reasons new vaccines take years to reach distribution is because it was up to pharma to prove that it wasn't the vaccine in instances like this. The legal term of art for this is "burden shifting", and this one's a real dooozy. Relates to the point I saw raised recently that pharma apparently have a legal duty (in a 1986 act) to make sure VAERS is accurate, and that it potentially serves them for people to be able to say, 'You can't trust anything from VAERS'. I haven't fact checked to see if that legal duty is true. At this point the old laws seem to offer very little protection going forward, as they're only ever as good as the apparatus that administers them. It's the height of irony that all the blue-checked-pink-haired youngsters who wanted so bad to "punch a Nazi" are calling the loudest to set aside the "Nuremberg Code".  |
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Jan 10, 2022 3:35:02 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 10, 2022 3:35:02 GMT
Facebook made the same argument in court about their "fact-checkers" that you mocked Tuck for: "just our opinions, man".  |
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Jan 10, 2022 3:40:04 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 10, 2022 3:40:04 GMT
tee hee yer gal Sandy had her shit all fucked up ...  .. that's what she gets for being one of CNN/MSNBC's last 213 viewers ... that fucking bitch is gonna light your collective asses up with dissents for the foreseeable future... Listened to it until it put me to sleep. Breyer, Kagan, Sondy and the AAG each either stated directly or implied their belief that the vax prevents spread. Sorry dude, your side has lost the plot. They think it's "science!". It's an informal, decentralized system of religious beliefs. It's ok, I'll still laugh along with them about Noah's Ark. |
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Jan 10, 2022 11:00:21 GMT
Post by Andrew on Jan 10, 2022 11:00:21 GMT
Yep. I can't tell you the amount of times I've started to talk about a conspiracy to someone, and within a minute they retort back with a quip about microchips. I very much distanced myself from the idea because it was doing more harm than good in conversation. There's a sort of tragic-comedy to the fact that something even I rejected as being too extreme a conspiracy, is so much closer to being normalized. I also find it interesting that it seems to be coming from the Scandinavian corner of the world. What is it about their culture that makes them more agreeable to the idea? I don't know. Denmark have used digital ID's for a few years....it's been normalized, and I've had several Danish people say to me....'it's nothing to be concerned about'. It's also crossed my mind that Sweden ignored much of the restrictions and measures because it was always known that they could easily make the leap to the QR way of life and microchips etc. In most of the world, governments have had to work harder to change the way people think, edging folks towards the new technologies, creating desperation. In England, the government have used the 'false dichotomy' quite masterfully at times....''do you want vaccine passes or lockdowns? That's the choice we face''. I've seen Biden try and do the same, but I don't think it's quite as convincing www.newsweek.com/people-get-microchips-implanted-that-include-vaccine-records-amid-new-covid-restrictions-1655916So they go from a smug, dismissive "ha! ha! conspiracy theory .. I'm smart yer dumb and krazy .." to "what's the big deal?". Are you familiar with the Greek myth of Cassandra?
I can't decide if that's either a sort of mass sociopathy or a reaction similar to an abused wife.
Exactly. In truth, that's probably my biggest trigger on twitter....I have been known to rant when I see 'what's the big deal? This is a normal response'. I don't know the myth...just looked.....yeah quite apropos! Could be a bit of both, they both seem plausible. I've been putting it down to the stubbornness of ego, but that's probably the trigger talking. |
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Jan 10, 2022 14:20:14 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 10, 2022 14:20:14 GMT
So they go from a smug, dismissive "ha! ha! conspiracy theory .. I'm smart yer dumb and krazy .." to "what's the big deal?". Are you familiar with the Greek myth of Cassandra?
I can't decide if that's either a sort of mass sociopathy or a reaction similar to an abused wife.
Exactly. In truth, that's probably my biggest trigger on twitter....I have been known to rant when I see 'what's the big deal? This is a normal response'. I don't know the myth...just looked.....yeah quite apropos! Could be a bit of both, they both seem plausible. I've been putting it down to the stubbornness of ego, but that's probably the trigger talking. It's frustrating .. but as Simon Whistler puts it .. "humans, gonna' human". I actually had no idea about any of this blind spot business until the st megathreads. |
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Jan 10, 2022 16:48:45 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 16:48:45 GMT
I haven't researched it. My first immediate questions would be 1. Do you have data to go with the anecdotes? 2. Considering that myocarditis is also a risk of covid itself, how do you know that heart problems (if you found them in data about the athletes) are from the vaccine and not a current or previous covid infection? Linked to a tabulation a week back or so to the effect that the incidence of heart attacks for soccer players worldwide was running 5x at the time yoy. Can't search for this obviously - which in and of itself is a flag. The anecdotes keep rollin' in, steady stream. As to the causation, well, that's the same causation/correlation issue we've already discussed. I appreciate keeping an open mind and avoiding the correlation/causation fallacy, but by the same token, there's the duck test.
[...] I can't find it. Can you post it again please? Was it this: goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/ |
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Corono
Jan 11, 2022 14:59:14 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 11, 2022 14:59:14 GMT
Linked to a tabulation a week back or so to the effect that the incidence of heart attacks for soccer players worldwide was running 5x at the time yoy. Can't search for this obviously - which in and of itself is a flag. The anecdotes keep rollin' in, steady stream. As to the causation, well, that's the same causation/correlation issue we've already discussed. I appreciate keeping an open mind and avoiding the correlation/causation fallacy, but by the same token, there's the duck test.
[...] I can't find it. Can you post it again please? Was it this: goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/
I've never been inclined to believe the vax was a deliberate plan to kill people, but, on the other hand, suddenly Hochul, the CDC and the msm are finally reporting, broadcasting and disseminating the inflation of case counts and deaths now, as if we didn't already know that from the alts two years ago, not to mention the CDC actually mentioned it in several of their public documents. Veracity matters. I tend to discount the value of information from sources that have been proven to have disseminated falsehoods, and put a premium on information from sources that have been proven right. What has happened to academia and government research sources is quite regrettable.
Athletes suffering heart complications from covid doesn't track with the profile of people who are most likely to be hospitalized for covid: the old and the sick. Conversely, you've almost certainly got a 100% vax rate among FIFA athletes.
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Jan 11, 2022 15:03:15 GMT
Post by ghostofmuttley on Jan 11, 2022 15:03:15 GMT
There are reports coming out of China of an Ebola-like disease causing the same sort of massive lockdowns in one of their cities that started the ball rolling back in '20's Wuhan. The pattern of such a pathogen would be very different, because it kills it's hosts so efficiently. On one hand, you're unlikely to have mass pandemic spread, but on the other, the potential for disruption and panic on at least a localized level is even greater.
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.. that's what she gets for being one of CNN/MSNBC's last 213 viewers ...
.. that's what she gets for being one of CNN/MSNBC's last 213 viewers ...