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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 5:32:36 GMT
Who is doing the seeing through? You can't answer that or don't want to because it doesn't fit your agenda. What gets seen through, Is the 'who'!!!! The idea that a 'who' is doing stuff, is an illusion that must be seen through if separation is to be seen through. Can you answer to his question, I find his question is very legitimate.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 5:34:48 GMT
There is no acceptance of irritation or anger. You want to get angry then get angry. The question is are you suffering if you get angry? If you are not suffering, then it's a faux anger. That's not anger at all. There's no such thing as faux anger. Have you seen any faux elephants?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 6:09:30 GMT
If you are not suffering, then it's a faux anger. That's not anger at all. There's no such thing as faux anger. Have you seen any faux elephants? Faux anger means you are not angry inside but making outward expression like you are in anger.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 7:32:48 GMT
There's no such thing as faux anger. Have you seen any faux elephants? Faux anger means you are not angry inside but making outward expression like you are in anger. faux— adjective artificial or imitation; fake:a brooch with faux pearls. Origin: 1670–80; French; Old French fals Latin falsus false.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 7:35:43 GMT
There is no acceptance of irritation or anger. You want to get angry then get angry. The question is are you suffering if you get angry? If you are not suffering, then it's a faux anger. That's not anger at all. Why would real anger make you suffer?
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Post by someNothing on Dec 9, 2019 12:05:46 GMT
Here's a question for you. If Self-realization means oneness, unity, not two, then how can there be illusion in the reality? It could be that the Self-realization is an illusion. An example could be that there’s a memory that SR happened, but somehow is not true now.
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Post by someNothing on Dec 9, 2019 12:12:31 GMT
I'm really not. The SVP gets seen through...gets seen for illusion. Personhood, personality, individuality remains part and parcel of experience, but like ALL experiential content, all perceivables, it's seen to be appearance only. There is a difference between the continued arising of personality, individuality, vs. identification with a who/what/person. Who is doing the seeing through? You can't answer that or don't want to because it doesn't fit your agenda. So, just seeing/looking requires an entity?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 14:31:46 GMT
Here's a question for you. If Self-realization means oneness, unity, not two, then how can there be illusion in the reality? It could be that the Self-realization is an illusion. An example could be that there’s a memory that SR happened, but somehow is not true now. You are expressing doubts about a state which you imagine to be capable of doubt. What can I say?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 14:35:13 GMT
Who is doing the seeing through? You can't answer that or don't want to because it doesn't fit your agenda. So, just seeing/looking requires an entity? Don't use the word entity but ask yourself who is seeing. You will say, "I Am". There is your answer.
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Post by muttley on Dec 9, 2019 16:00:32 GMT
Do you seriously see no difference between the appearance of personality vs. identification with the personality? And another thing .. "the infinite" isn't a really big space that stuff gets jammed into. Oneness is not an assemblage of parts. There is no "person in the infinite". The unfathomable scale of the physical Universe - in both time, and space - is one of Plato's shadows. It's a beautiful shadow, but, it's only a shadow, nonetheless.
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