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Post by Figgles on Jan 17, 2020 4:26:51 GMT
The idea of 'personally willing something into appearance' is misconceived. It's when personal intent aligns with 'Universal will' (for lack of a better term) that you will begin to see ideas/intents/interests easily and effortlessly evolving into materialization. But again, this is not actually a 'cause/effect' equation, it just looks that way on the surface of things. For anyone truly interested in what's up with the whole "Law of Attraction" dealy, I say, spend some time looking deeply into your highest values, deepest intents, what you desire and why you desire it. That's where the gold lies. That's where you will come to see whether you are engaging ideas of separation, limitation, and it's those illusions that need to be seen through before the unfolding of life will become 'effortless.' And really, that's what we're all after, even though it seems like we're after specific circumstances and things. There is no personal willing involved here as you say. All That Is is doing it's Job, nothing else exist. What I am saying is, If you expectation is confirmed with evidence which leads to the belief in you so strong then surely it will happen, because unfolding universe is moving towards that probable line. While that may often be the case, there are no such guarantees. There are always exceptions to the rule/apparent laws that appear.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 8:50:50 GMT
So you meant to say I have seen the truth of resisting persist. And this knowing again seems to be creative and confirming my experience again? I think so. yes, is it not? Exactly, it's a good catch. Infact I did not observe this so far. But now it becomes clear. I always wonder, why does it creates what I already found and every time it confirms it to me. So it seems like Belief creates the reality, eh? Then the next question comes like, Can I create anything just by believing? It is not possible because as you said in your reply, I can't believe something which is not supported to me by evidence. Infact It's not resistance now in my life, because I am in the rollercoaster of searching and finding the answer. I strongly believe that searching and finding the answer mutually defines each other and it moves on and on. I always wonder, even after I find this truth, why it still persist, May be now it comes to the clarity as to why. Can you explain me more about this?
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Post by Figgles on Jan 18, 2020 16:20:16 GMT
yes, is it not? Exactly, it's a good catch. Infact I did not observe this so far. But now it becomes clear. I always wonder, why does it creates what I already found and every time it confirms it to me. So it seems like Belief creates the reality, eh? Then the next question comes like, Can I create anything just by believing? It is not possible because as you said in your reply, I can't believe something which is not supported to me by evidence. Infact It's not resistance now in my life, because I am in the rollercoaster of searching and finding the answer. I strongly believe that searching and finding the answer mutually defines each other and it moves on and on. I always wonder, even after I find this truth, why it still persist, May be now it comes to the clarity as to why. Can you explain me more about this? I'll leave E to answer your specific questions within that post, but I want to address your sig line; Gopal: "Fantasizing the beautiful future is what primarily creates the problem in our present life." I would not say that fantasizing/imagining a beautiful future necessarily creates a problem in our present life. And I'd say it's far more likely that if one is deeply resisting his present circumstances,he is not imagining a beautiful future at all, but rather, is living in fear that what currently presents, will continue, and thus, he is desiring for a better future, but not really expecting it. I'd say if someone is very unhappy with their present, it's rare to fantasize a beautiful future. There is 'wanting' for a better a future, sure, but for most, it's tough to imagine things changing from what they are now standing in resistance to, to something 'beautiful.' If they truly were focused upon 'beauty' even though it's projected to an imagined future, here and now, they'd be experiencing beauty. A focus upon beauty is after all, a present focus upon, and thus, an experience of, beauty, right?
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Post by Enigma on Jan 18, 2020 17:16:17 GMT
yes, is it not? Exactly, it's a good catch. Infact I did not observe this so far. But now it becomes clear. I always wonder, why does it creates what I already found and every time it confirms it to me. So it seems like Belief creates the reality, eh? Then the next question comes like, Can I create anything just by believing? It is not possible because as you said in your reply, I can't believe something which is not supported to me by evidence. Infact It's not resistance now in my life, because I am in the rollercoaster of searching and finding the answer. I strongly believe that searching and finding the answer mutually defines each other and it moves on and on. I always wonder, even after I find this truth, why it still persist, May be now it comes to the clarity as to why. Can you explain me more about this? I'll give it a try. A negative focus of fear, anger, resentment, guilt, whatever it may be, is creative in the sense that it actively misaligns with the force of creation, reinforcing the situation you want to resolve. These qualities are not a part of what you essentially are as they are mind created illusions. They're not part of your essence, they are not the truth of your Being and they're not part of the force of creation as these are all one. On the other hand, a positive focus is part of the force, and enables you to actively align with the force of creation to bring about positive change. This actually requires a change in your state of being, which isn't really as formidable as it sounds. This is why Mother Theresa and the Dalai Lama didn't fight against war but rather embraced peace. It may seem like a subtle difference but is the difference between aligning with the force of creation and working against it. You'll also find that most healers don't try to eradicate problems so much as bring about balance and harmony in the body, seeing the body as perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 17:30:57 GMT
yes, is it not? Exactly, it's a good catch. Infact I did not observe this so far. But now it becomes clear. I always wonder, why does it creates what I already found and every time it confirms it to me. So it seems like Belief creates the reality, eh? Then the next question comes like, Can I create anything just by believing? It is not possible because as you said in your reply, I can't believe something which is not supported to me by evidence. Infact It's not resistance now in my life, because I am in the rollercoaster of searching and finding the answer. I strongly believe that searching and finding the answer mutually defines each other and it moves on and on. I always wonder, even after I find this truth, why it still persist, May be now it comes to the clarity as to why. Can you explain me more about this? I'll leave E to answer your specific questions within that post, but I want to address your sig line; Gopal: "Fantasizing the beautiful future is what primarily creates the problem in our present life." I would not say that fantasizing/imagining a beautiful future necessarily creates a problem in our present life. And I'd say it's far more likely that if one is deeply resisting his present circumstances,he is not imagining a beautiful future at all, but rather, is living in fear that what currently presents, will continue, and thus, he is desiring for a better future, but not really expecting it. I'd say if someone is very unhappy with their present, it's rare to fantasize a beautiful future. There is 'wanting' for a better a future, sure, but for most, it's tough to imagine things changing from what they are now standing in resistance to, to something 'beautiful.' If they truly were focused upon 'beauty' even though it's projected to an imagined future, here and now, they'd be experiencing beauty. A focus upon beauty is after all, a present focus upon, and thus, an experience of, beauty, right? I will get back to this tomorrow morning.
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Post by Enigma on Jan 18, 2020 17:34:50 GMT
yes, is it not? Exactly, it's a good catch. Infact I did not observe this so far. But now it becomes clear. I always wonder, why does it creates what I already found and every time it confirms it to me. So it seems like Belief creates the reality, eh? Then the next question comes like, Can I create anything just by believing? It is not possible because as you said in your reply, I can't believe something which is not supported to me by evidence. Infact It's not resistance now in my life, because I am in the rollercoaster of searching and finding the answer. I strongly believe that searching and finding the answer mutually defines each other and it moves on and on. I always wonder, even after I find this truth, why it still persist, May be now it comes to the clarity as to why. Can you explain me more about this? I'll leave E to answer your specific questions within that post, but I want to address your sig line; Gopal: "Fantasizing the beautiful future is what primarily creates the problem in our present life." I would not say that fantasizing/imagining a beautiful future necessarily creates a problem in our present life. And I'd say it's far more likely that if one is deeply resisting his present circumstances,he is not imagining a beautiful future at all, but rather, is living in fear that what currently presents, will continue, and thus, he is desiring for a better future, but not really expecting it. I'd say if someone is very unhappy with their present, it's rare to fantasize a beautiful future. There is 'wanting' for a better a future, sure, but for most, it's tough to imagine things changing from what they are now standing in resistance to, to something 'beautiful.' If they truly were focused upon 'beauty' even though it's projected to an imagined future, here and now, they'd be experiencing beauty. A focus upon beauty is after all, a present focus upon, and thus, an experience of, beauty, right? Yes, well said. Re. the underlined, you're right that it's hard to focus on beauty when what one see in his life is ugliness, which is why I suggested to Gopal that it would require a change of being to begin to align with WHAT IS instead of what isn't, and this change is going to require clarity. The clarity will reference, directly or indirectly, the illusions being created by mind that hold the undesirable present in place.
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Post by Enigma on Jan 18, 2020 17:36:31 GMT
I'll leave E to answer your specific questions within that post, but I want to address your sig line; Gopal: "Fantasizing the beautiful future is what primarily creates the problem in our present life." I would not say that fantasizing/imagining a beautiful future necessarily creates a problem in our present life. And I'd say it's far more likely that if one is deeply resisting his present circumstances,he is not imagining a beautiful future at all, but rather, is living in fear that what currently presents, will continue, and thus, he is desiring for a better future, but not really expecting it. I'd say if someone is very unhappy with their present, it's rare to fantasize a beautiful future. There is 'wanting' for a better a future, sure, but for most, it's tough to imagine things changing from what they are now standing in resistance to, to something 'beautiful.' If they truly were focused upon 'beauty' even though it's projected to an imagined future, here and now, they'd be experiencing beauty. A focus upon beauty is after all, a present focus upon, and thus, an experience of, beauty, right? I will get back to this tomorrow morning. After you've changed your sig? Just kidding G.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 17:39:07 GMT
yes, is it not? Exactly, it's a good catch. Infact I did not observe this so far. But now it becomes clear. I always wonder, why does it creates what I already found and every time it confirms it to me. So it seems like Belief creates the reality, eh? Then the next question comes like, Can I create anything just by believing? It is not possible because as you said in your reply, I can't believe something which is not supported to me by evidence. Infact It's not resistance now in my life, because I am in the rollercoaster of searching and finding the answer. I strongly believe that searching and finding the answer mutually defines each other and it moves on and on. I always wonder, even after I find this truth, why it still persist, May be now it comes to the clarity as to why. Can you explain me more about this? I'll give it a try. A negative focus of fear, anger, resentment, guilt, whatever it may be, is creative in the sense that it actively misaligns with the force of creation, reinforcing the situation you want to resolve. These qualities are not a part of what you essentially are as they are mind created illusions. They're not part of your essence, they are not the truth of your Being and they're not part of the force of creation as these are all one. On the other hand, a positive focus is part of the force, and enables you to actively align with the force of creation to bring about positive change. This actually requires a change in your state of being, which isn't really as formidable as it sounds. This is why Mother Theresa and the Dalai Lama didn't fight against war but rather embraced peace. It may seem like a subtle difference but is the difference between aligning with the force of creation and working against it. You'll also find that most healers don't try to eradicate problems so much as bring about balance and harmony in the body, seeing the body as perfect. So my belief that "resisting persists" is the negative focus? What I am seeing now is, I clearly see something as to how creation unfolds, and you say now that this seeing becomes the belief, and this belief starts to reinforce the reality again and again and I think you are perfectly correct here,because this is the way it's happening for me. But I don't know what to do now! How do I drop off all my beliefs, I don't have any clue. And you said to me expectation and beliefs are the two things stabilize the one probable line from infinite possibility before. And this is the way we create reality for ourselves, If so, when you said "They're not part of your essence, they are not the truth of your Being and they're not part of the force of creation as these are all one. " you meant to say there is some other line which is getting unfolded when your essence tend to express itself(in the absence of your beliefs)?
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Post by Enigma on Jan 18, 2020 18:35:55 GMT
I'll give it a try. A negative focus of fear, anger, resentment, guilt, whatever it may be, is creative in the sense that it actively misaligns with the force of creation, reinforcing the situation you want to resolve. These qualities are not a part of what you essentially are as they are mind created illusions. They're not part of your essence, they are not the truth of your Being and they're not part of the force of creation as these are all one. On the other hand, a positive focus is part of the force, and enables you to actively align with the force of creation to bring about positive change. This actually requires a change in your state of being, which isn't really as formidable as it sounds. This is why Mother Theresa and the Dalai Lama didn't fight against war but rather embraced peace. It may seem like a subtle difference but is the difference between aligning with the force of creation and working against it. You'll also find that most healers don't try to eradicate problems so much as bring about balance and harmony in the body, seeing the body as perfect. So my belief that "resisting persists" is the negative focus? What I am seeing now is, I clearly see something as to how creation unfolds, and you say now that this seeing becomes the belief, and this belief starts to reinforce the reality again and again and I think you are perfectly correct here,because this is the way it's happening for me. But I don't know what to do now! How do I drop off all my beliefs, I don't have any clue.And you said to me expectation and beliefs are the two things stabilize the one probable line from infinite possibility before. And this is the way we create reality for ourselves, If so, when you said "They're not part of your essence, they are not the truth of your Being and they're not part of the force of creation as these are all one. " you meant to say there is some other line which is getting unfolded when your essence tend to express itself(in the absence of your beliefs)? Sure, your beliefs are the direct result of your experience and your understanding (clarity), right? So those will need to change. You're realized clarity will result in change if it is genuine. That's the reason that clarity is always what I focus on in discussions here. Experimentation is a good way to make use of that clarity to change your experience, further reinforcing your new belief. That's how I learned to do energy work and healing.
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Post by Enigma on Jan 18, 2020 19:01:45 GMT
I'll give it a try. A negative focus of fear, anger, resentment, guilt, whatever it may be, is creative in the sense that it actively misaligns with the force of creation, reinforcing the situation you want to resolve. These qualities are not a part of what you essentially are as they are mind created illusions. They're not part of your essence, they are not the truth of your Being and they're not part of the force of creation as these are all one. On the other hand, a positive focus is part of the force, and enables you to actively align with the force of creation to bring about positive change. This actually requires a change in your state of being, which isn't really as formidable as it sounds. This is why Mother Theresa and the Dalai Lama didn't fight against war but rather embraced peace. It may seem like a subtle difference but is the difference between aligning with the force of creation and working against it. You'll also find that most healers don't try to eradicate problems so much as bring about balance and harmony in the body, seeing the body as perfect. So my belief that "resisting persists" is the negative focus? What I am seeing now is, I clearly see something as to how creation unfolds, and you say now that this seeing becomes the belief, and this belief starts to reinforce the reality again and again and I think you are perfectly correct here,because this is the way it's happening for me. But I don't know what to do now! How do I drop off all my beliefs, I don't have any clue. And you said to me expectation and beliefs are the two things stabilize the one probable line from infinite possibility before. And this is the way we create reality for ourselves, If so, when you said "They're not part of your essence, they are not the truth of your Being and they're not part of the force of creation as these are all one. " you meant to say there is some other line which is getting unfolded when your essence tend to express itself(in the absence of your beliefs)? When I said 'They're not part of your essence' I wasn't referring to expectation and belief. I was referring to negative feelings of fear, anger, resentment, guilt, etc. The force of creation that you want to use knows nothing of these illusory created feelings. We can't even say we're using the force of creation to create those feelings, we're just misaligning with creation as it is, blocking it's true expression. Not sure where you're coming from with this, but in the absence of belief, creation is a reflection of what you fundamentally are. Observe nature undisturbed by man. There is beauty, wonder, integration, diversity, life loving itself in every possible expression.
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