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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 7:08:34 GMT
That's exactly what I said. No, you said you have to sit on your couch and practice being home until you get it right.  So why didn't Nisargadatta's guru tell him there was nothing to practice because he was already that? He gave him a mantra and asked him to practice staying with the I am. I needn't repeat what I have already quoted Niz saying about the results from this practice. And I only quote it because it was also my experience. So your words concerning practice have no ring of truth for me and they never will. |
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Post by Enigma on Sept 1, 2019 12:09:56 GMT
No, you said you have to sit on your couch and practice being home until you get it right. So why didn't Nisargadatta's guru tell him there was nothing to practice because he was already that? He gave him a mantra and asked him to practice staying with the I am. I needn't repeat what I have already quoted Niz saying about the results from this practice. And I only quote it because it was also my experience. So your words concerning practice have no ring of truth for me and they never will. We can't keep going round in circles with this discussion. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 12:24:48 GMT
So why didn't Nisargadatta's guru tell him there was nothing to practice because he was already that? He gave him a mantra and asked him to practice staying with the I am. I needn't repeat what I have already quoted Niz saying about the results from this practice. And I only quote it because it was also my experience. So your words concerning practice have no ring of truth for me and they never will. We can't keep going round in circles with this discussion. I'm not forcing you to. |
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Sept 1, 2019 12:25:16 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 12:25:16 GMT
No, you said you have to sit on your couch and practice being home until you get it right. He gave him a mantra and asked him to practice staying with the I am. I needn't repeat what I have already quoted Niz saying about the results from this practice. And I only quote it because it was also my experience. So your words concerning practice have no ring of truth for me and they never will. Maybe he forgot? Giving someone a mantra to hold onto is silliness when there is awareness/silence-thought-awareness/silence-thought-awareness/silence-thought... taking place throughout the day. All we need to know is the awareness/silence is primary. No need for a mantra or meditation. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 12:28:06 GMT
So why didn't Nisargadatta's guru tell him there was nothing to practice because he was already that? He gave him a mantra and asked him to practice staying with the I am. I needn't repeat what I have already quoted Niz saying about the results from this practice. And I only quote it because it was also my experience. So your words concerning practice have no ring of truth for me and they never will. Maybe he forgot? Giving someone a mantra to hold onto is silliness when there is awareness/silence-thought-awareness/silence-thought-awareness/silence-thought... taking place throughout the day. All we need to know is the awareness/silence is primary. No need for a mantra or meditation. Tell that to Niz, not me. Niz gave out the naam mantra to many as did his successor Ramakant Maharaj. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 12:33:13 GMT
Maybe he forgot? Giving someone a mantra to hold onto is silliness when there is awareness/silence-thought-awareness/silence-thought-awareness/silence-thought... taking place throughout the day. All we need to know is the awareness/silence is primary. No need for a mantra or meditation. Tell that to Niz, not me. Niz gave out the naam mantra to many as did his successor Ramakant Maharaj. What? Seeing-knowing informs the mind that one cannot negate awareness and It cannot be grasped with any mental concept. I don't have to tell Nisargadatta diddly. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 12:35:34 GMT
Tell that to Niz, not me. Niz gave out the naam mantra to many as did his successor Ramakant Maharaj. What? Seeing-knowing informs the mind that one cannot negate awareness and It cannot be grasped with any mental concept. I don't have to tell Nisargadatta diddly. To say that all we need to know is that awareness/silence is primary is not enough. Come and see me and I'll teach you how to use a mantra. You'd love it where I live. www.phuketgolfcourse.com/loch-palm-golf-club.htm |
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Sept 1, 2019 12:41:56 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 12:41:56 GMT
What? Seeing-knowing informs the mind that one cannot negate awareness and It cannot be grasped with any mental concept. I don't have to tell Nisargadatta diddly. To say that all we need to know is that awareness/silence is primary is not enough. Come and see me and I'll teach you how to use a mantra. You'd love it where I live. www.phuketgolfcourse.com/loch-palm-golf-club.htmIt is enough. I don't have to travel to Phuket to understand what is seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling, touching, golfing, etc. You'd love it where I live, too. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 12:44:08 GMT
It is enough. I don't have to travel to Phuket to understand what is seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling, touching, golfing, etc. You'd love it where I live, too. I really don't know why everyone is saying that meditation isn't necessary when all the masters are saying it is. It's a mystery! |
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Sept 1, 2019 12:46:51 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 12:46:51 GMT
It is enough. I don't have to travel to Phuket to understand what is seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling, touching, golfing, etc. You'd love it where I live, too. I really don't know why everyone is saying that meditation isn't necessary when all the masters are saying it is. It's a mystery! If a mantra was necessary, why wouldn't a newborn child have to be issued a mantra at birth? |
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