Post by Figgles on Aug 29, 2019 17:06:21 GMT
There are those experiences that 'seem to be' in a category all their own because either they defy so called 'normal' senses, expected experience, they have us looking at the world in a new way, or they arise on the heels of transcendent seeing/realization and thus, seemingly themselves have a 'transcendent quality.'
It's all too easy to conflate the sense of awe that arises in experience, as an appearance, with the realization itself and this is where an actual groundedness in Being AS experience arises, becomes important.
In groundedness in Being, it becomes crystal clear what is the ground and what is an appearance. When there is even the slightest bit of identification with that which appears, that's when things get muddy and folks start assigning Truth to what appears.
As the "It's all Alive/I don't know," conversation rolled on, it became clear that experiential qualities/properties of 'aliveness/vibrancy/experiencing,' were being assigned Truth status, just because the seeing of the qualities/properties was mistaken to be 'transcendent.' Plain and simply, Appearance was being conflated with Truth.
A transcendent 'experience,' is not equal to 'transcendent seeing' which is what 'realization' is. A transcendent experience is still fully 'within' the play/story/dream. It may 'seem' as though it's beyond, because it's so extraordinary in comparison to so called 'normal everyday experience,' but it's important not to get fooled by that.
Transcendent seeing on the other hand, is beyond all experience, beyond all sense of awe....reverence, even, though one may indeed experience awe and reverence on the heels of realization/transcendent seeing.
It's all too easy to conflate the sense of awe that arises in experience, as an appearance, with the realization itself and this is where an actual groundedness in Being AS experience arises, becomes important.
In groundedness in Being, it becomes crystal clear what is the ground and what is an appearance. When there is even the slightest bit of identification with that which appears, that's when things get muddy and folks start assigning Truth to what appears.
As the "It's all Alive/I don't know," conversation rolled on, it became clear that experiential qualities/properties of 'aliveness/vibrancy/experiencing,' were being assigned Truth status, just because the seeing of the qualities/properties was mistaken to be 'transcendent.' Plain and simply, Appearance was being conflated with Truth.
A transcendent 'experience,' is not equal to 'transcendent seeing' which is what 'realization' is. A transcendent experience is still fully 'within' the play/story/dream. It may 'seem' as though it's beyond, because it's so extraordinary in comparison to so called 'normal everyday experience,' but it's important not to get fooled by that.
Transcendent seeing on the other hand, is beyond all experience, beyond all sense of awe....reverence, even, though one may indeed experience awe and reverence on the heels of realization/transcendent seeing.