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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 9:11:34 GMT
Clarity or clear seeing recreate your universe, So you can clearly see ! Your not really explaining to me how you came about clarity . You speak of direct seeing and S.R. and I am still none the wiser in understanding how you came to your understanding . Let me put it this way, when it rains on your head, you have a direct experience relating to what you are and the rain . You then have an understanding of what you are and what rain is .. I don't know how you have realized / directly seen the workings of the universe . You simply know you are consciousness or perceiver, but how could you know you are the creator of that perception as well is the question, that require the direct seeing of clarity and followed by physical universe re-orchestration. |
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Post by Tenka on Jun 2, 2017 9:23:35 GMT
Your not really explaining to me how you came about clarity . You speak of direct seeing and S.R. and I am still none the wiser in understanding how you came to your understanding . Let me put it this way, when it rains on your head, you have a direct experience relating to what you are and the rain . You then have an understanding of what you are and what rain is .. I don't know how you have realized / directly seen the workings of the universe . You simply know you are consciousness or perceiver, but how could you know you are the creator of that perception as well is the question, that require the direct seeing of clarity and followed by physical universe re-orchestration. You haven't explained your direct seeing of clarity regarding the physical universe re-orchestration. What wonders of the world / universal workings presented themselves to you . How did you directly see the workings of the universe in relation to S.R. or realizing what you are . |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 10:52:29 GMT
You simply know you are consciousness or perceiver, but how could you know you are the creator of that perception as well is the question, that require the direct seeing of clarity and followed by physical universe re-orchestration. You haven't explained your direct seeing of clarity regarding the physical universe re-orchestration. What wonders of the world / universal workings presented themselves to you . How did you directly see the workings of the universe in relation to S.R. or realizing what you are . We are trying to understand who we really are,right? What else? For an example, you might have watched avatar movie, where our hero is a handicapped person but when his spirit was entered into the body of of a new avatar, he started to walk and run, What if he has forgotten where does he come from? If he has forgotten, then he starts to identify himself to be a new avatar and he will forget that he is actually a human being, this is what identification is! So understanding who we really are paves the way for us SR, that's what SR is, right? or do you have some other meaning for that? So I am saying, I knew I was a perceiver, but I don't know that I create what I perceive, I have directly seen this when I directly noticed the universal re-orchestration as a result of some kind of clarity. So who am I? I am a creator as well as perceiver. If you know this truth, then you self-realized in my dictionary. |
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Post by Tenka on Jun 2, 2017 11:08:32 GMT
You haven't explained your direct seeing of clarity regarding the physical universe re-orchestration. What wonders of the world / universal workings presented themselves to you . How did you directly see the workings of the universe in relation to S.R. or realizing what you are . We are trying to understand who we really are,right? What else? For an example, you might have watched avatar movie, where our hero is a handicapped person but when his spirit was entered into the body of of a new avatar, he started to walk and run, What if he has forgotten where does he come from? If he has forgotten, then he starts to identify himself to be a new avatar and he will forget that he is actually a human being, this is what identification is! So understanding who we really are paves the way for us SR, that's what SR is, right? or do you have some other meaning for that? So I am saying, I knew I was a perceiver, but I don't know that I create what I perceive, I have directly seen this when I directly noticed the universal re-orchestration as a result of some kind of clarity. So who am I? I am a creator as well as perceiver. If you know this truth, then you self-realized in my dictionary. What kind of clarity are we speaking about that you say happened to you as a result of direct seeing / S.R. . Are you relating your moment of clarity to something like isaac newtons moment of understanding universal gravitation? If you are then this is not S.R. If you are speaking about realizing what you are in and of itself then there is no understanding of the universe revealed at this point . One may however relate to the universe in reflection of what they are post-realization . Your not saying how you attained a moment of clarity .. did an apple fall on your head or was you in deep sleep, meditation, beyond mind, no self etc etc . |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 13:49:45 GMT
I agree . S.R. however opens doors regarding how we see ourselves . Yes, agree! It allows us to see as a creator. So you created the Universe? How did you do that? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 16:10:26 GMT
Yes, agree! It allows us to see as a creator. So you created the Universe? How did you do that? That's the secret, I won't tell you! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 20:57:09 GMT
So you created the Universe? How did you do that? That's the secret, I won't tell you! You mean like me you don't really know... Which means clarity of mind for endless possibilities. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 8:40:57 GMT
That's the secret, I won't tell you! You mean like me you don't really know... Which means clarity of mind for endless possibilities. I mean like I really do know. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 14:00:25 GMT
You mean like me you don't really know... Which means clarity of mind for endless possibilities. I mean like I really do know. Limited knowing puts an end to unlimited possibility. IOW what you believe you know cannot be the reality.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 15:17:49 GMT
We are trying to understand who we really are,right? What else? For an example, you might have watched avatar movie, where our hero is a handicapped person but when his spirit was entered into the body of of a new avatar, he started to walk and run, What if he has forgotten where does he come from? If he has forgotten, then he starts to identify himself to be a new avatar and he will forget that he is actually a human being, this is what identification is! So understanding who we really are paves the way for us SR, that's what SR is, right? or do you have some other meaning for that? So I am saying, I knew I was a perceiver, but I don't know that I create what I perceive, I have directly seen this when I directly noticed the universal re-orchestration as a result of some kind of clarity. So who am I? I am a creator as well as perceiver. If you know this truth, then you self-realized in my dictionary. What kind of clarity are we speaking about that you say happened to you as a result of direct seeing / S.R. . Are you relating your moment of clarity to something like isaac newtons moment of understanding universal gravitation? If you are then this is not S.R. If you are speaking about realizing what you are in and of itself then there is no understanding of the universe revealed at this point . One may however relate to the universe in reflection of what they are post-realization . Your not saying how you attained a moment of clarity .. did an apple fall on your head or was you in deep sleep, meditation, beyond mind, no self etc etc . We are talking about who we really are! I showed you how I realized myself to be a creator. |
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