muttley
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Post by muttley on Oct 7, 2019 18:26:59 GMT
Thanks, and hey listen .. I hope that at some point, in direct contradiction to what you expressed here, you might start to notice how it's actually quite possible to have civil and dispassionate debate free of attachment to winning it and ad-hominem that can be, despite that, very interesting to read. In fact, it happens quite a bit. I've done it at various times with E', ZD, Reefs and several others. It's far less voluminous than the other stuff, precisely because of the nature of the dialog. Oh get outta here you hypocrite. Who are you trying to kid. Do you think you're immune when you're wearing your Passive Aggressive cloaking device? What you consider to be passive aggression directed your way is often in your imagination. It's a function of being tightly identified with a set of concepts. You take disagreement with them as a personal attack. And, do you really think I have any issue with writing directly to you what's on my mind over here where you can't hide behind Reefer's skirts?
And you're not paying attention: I was referring, specifically, to a completely different kind of dialog, one that you're quite obviously incapable. of.
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Post by Figgles on Oct 7, 2019 22:15:44 GMT
I hope will. I would very much enjoy reading that. Thanks, and hey listen .. I hope that at some point, in direct contradiction to what you expressed here, you might start to notice how it's actually quite possible to have civil and dispassionate debate free of attachment to winning it and ad-hominem that can be, despite that, very interesting to read. In fact, it happens quite a bit. I've done it at various times with E', ZD, Reefs and several others. It's far less voluminous than the other stuff, precisely because of the nature of the dialog. Oh, I'm well aware it is possible. It's often happens though, that one is certain he is seeing attachment, one-up-man-ship, an intent to prove or disprove realization status, etc, even where there may be none of that going on, simply because someone is challenging his message.
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Post by Figgles on Oct 7, 2019 22:33:05 GMT
Thanks, and hey listen .. I hope that at some point, in direct contradiction to what you expressed here, you might start to notice how it's actually quite possible to have civil and dispassionate debate free of attachment to winning it and ad-hominem that can be, despite that, very interesting to read. In fact, it happens quite a bit. I've done it at various times with E', ZD, Reefs and several others. It's far less voluminous than the other stuff, precisely because of the nature of the dialog. Oh get outta here you hypocrite. Who are you trying to kid. Do you think you're immune when you're wearing your Passive Aggressive cloaking device? I like it!...alot.
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muttley
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Post by muttley on Oct 7, 2019 23:30:34 GMT
Thanks, and hey listen .. I hope that at some point, in direct contradiction to what you expressed here, you might start to notice how it's actually quite possible to have civil and dispassionate debate free of attachment to winning it and ad-hominem that can be, despite that, very interesting to read. In fact, it happens quite a bit. I've done it at various times with E', ZD, Reefs and several others. It's far less voluminous than the other stuff, precisely because of the nature of the dialog. Oh, I'm well aware it is possible. It's often happens though, that one is certain he is seeing attachment, one-up-man-ship, an intent to prove or disprove realization status, etc, even where there may be none of that going on, simply because someone is challenging his message. Whatevs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 1:32:03 GMT
Thanks, and hey listen .. I hope that at some point, in direct contradiction to what you expressed here, you might start to notice how it's actually quite possible to have civil and dispassionate debate free of attachment to winning it and ad-hominem that can be, despite that, very interesting to read. In fact, it happens quite a bit. I've done it at various times with E', ZD, Reefs and several others. It's far less voluminous than the other stuff, precisely because of the nature of the dialog. Oh get outta here you hypocrite. Who are you trying to kid. Do you think you're immune when you're wearing your Passive Aggressive cloaking device? Both of you, please relax!
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Post by Enigma on Oct 8, 2019 3:58:23 GMT
Oh get outta here you hypocrite. Who are you trying to kid. Do you think you're immune when you're wearing your Passive Aggressive cloaking device? I like it!...alot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 13:53:44 GMT
It's interesting watching what emerges after the storm. He's right that there will be a lag.
Rowan deleted his account. .. but then again, he always does that! That's not good. I was beginning to get worried about his psychological state of mind. I found a couple more of these this morning, too, in response to other posters who had the audacity to disagree with you. It's your fallback mechanism when things aren't going your way in a discussion. I don't know why, but something tells me you wear a uniform-like attire when teaching, and act all holy and shit. It’s a bitch when someone makes the choice to be what you insist that you see, ain’t it, ya carbon based meat sack?
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Post by Figgles on Dec 1, 2019 17:52:13 GMT
Profound. Really well put.
In SR, preponderance of attention is upon Awareness/Being while that which appears takes a back-seat.
To the seeker, that which appears is as real/substantive as it's gets. That which appears has the preponderance of his attention. Whereas in SR, only the ground has substance....all that appears is inherently absence it's own inherent substance.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 18:06:12 GMT
In SR, preponderance of attention is upon Awareness/Being while that which appears takes a back-seat. There is no preponderance of attention on awareness in SR. Nothing takes a back seat. When the Self has been realized one is wide awake to everything including the relative. SR is beyond notions of nonduality and duality. You may well be choosing to put your attention on awareness but that's not the natural state. You are doing a practice with your preponderance, the very thing you are so critical of. You should continue to keep going back to awareness, but in SR there are no backseats. Everything is on the front seat.
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Post by Figgles on Dec 1, 2019 18:12:55 GMT
In SR, preponderance of attention is upon Awareness/Being while that which appears takes a back-seat. There is no preponderance of attention on awareness in SR. Nothing takes a back seat. When the Self has been realized one is wide awake to everything including the relative. SR is beyond notions of nonduality and duality. You may well be choosing to put your attention on awareness but that's not the natural state. You are doing a practice with your preponderance, the very thing you are so critical of. You should continue to keep going back to awareness, but in SR there are no backseats. Everything is on the front seat. You are conflating a choice to focus upon awareness with actual abidance in/as awareness. I am talking about the latter. When I speak of appearances taking a back-seat, what I am really saying is that no-thing that appears, no concept, thought or idea, is identified with. In the absence of identification, awareness reigns supreme, regardless of what is appearing.
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