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Post by Figgles on Jan 2, 2023 22:01:31 GMT
Nah, that's just relative consistency of personality/behavior. Has nothing to do with being awake. There are no guarantees in SR....and while we might think we can know looking on at another whether or not he's awake or not, ultimately, we're surmising. Wakefulness is a here and now, direct imminently known vantage point. I think many of us on Truth-talk forums take a harder line than we would in so called normal day to day interactions. I never bring up the subject of Nondualty/Truth unless a clear interest is expressed by the other. I suspect those who consider me a shit-disturber/bitch of sorts on these forums might be quite surprised at my day to day demeanor with friends, family, strangers I encounter. I have a reputation of being very easy-going and accommodating. We're that home where all the kids friends gather and call us their 2nd parents....regularly get told walking into our home feels like an immediate decompression zone...which is so nice to hear. But yeah, on forums supposedly dedicated to Truth, I most definitely do fit the bill at times of 'dog with a bone who won't let go.' none of that equals a sense of separation/mis-alignment though.
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Post by Figgles on Jan 2, 2023 22:02:58 GMT
Hmmm...nicely put dude.
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Post by Figgles on Jan 2, 2023 22:05:07 GMT
Yes, and the Niz/Ramana stories indicate that suffering and cancer are not necessarily tied together as many believe.
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Post by Esponja on Jan 2, 2023 22:09:17 GMT
Yes, and the Niz/Ramana stories indicate that suffering and cancer are not necessarily tied together as many believe. And in awakening it is seen that there’s no difference between suffering and joy either.
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Post by Esponja on Jan 2, 2023 22:13:07 GMT
Yup. My mom's last couple of years appeared pretty grizzly, looking on. A lovely, smart, incredibly strong and kind woman her entire life....wonderful mom..doting grandma....Alzheimers that came on quickly...required a dementia unit placement....went steadily downhill, broke hip, lost swallow reflex, died of starvation/dehydration....we thought is would be quick....took over 2 weeks....did not look pleasant to say the least. As I've shared previous (Note: completely, full on woo-woo here...not of the realm of Truth...experience/appearance only) mere moments following her death, had an amazing telepahtic convo with her where she shared that although it all looked awful at the end, there was in fact great value from her vantage point in all that had taken place...literally everything she said, down the apparent shittiest aspect, played it's part in her sense of 'completion'... I’ve had that type of thing confirmed too but still just story. No cause and effect, all just happening and certainly no reason for any of it. Damn it!
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Post by Figgles on Jan 2, 2023 22:15:46 GMT
Might be because the main person using that term, Reefs, refuses to succinctly and directly answer questions. Notice how she accused Satchi of creating a straw-man argument and then when satchi politely asked about it, just bowed out of the convo completely....refusing to answer..? & That's par for the course where Reefs is concerned. Direct queries and direct challenges are very rarely directly answered.
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Post by Figgles on Jan 2, 2023 22:17:31 GMT
Yes, and the Niz/Ramana stories indicate that suffering and cancer are not necessarily tied together as many believe. And in awakening it is seen that there’s no difference between suffering and joy either. Ultimately, both appearance, yeah. However, there is a difference in the sense that joy can arise once separation is seen through, but suffering no longer does. (suffering defined as: the mental overlay placed upon normal, arising/falling feeling by an SVP)
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Post by Figgles on Jan 2, 2023 22:19:55 GMT
Yup. My mom's last couple of years appeared pretty grizzly, looking on. A lovely, smart, incredibly strong and kind woman her entire life....wonderful mom..doting grandma....Alzheimers that came on quickly...required a dementia unit placement....went steadily downhill, broke hip, lost swallow reflex, died of starvation/dehydration....we thought is would be quick....took over 2 weeks....did not look pleasant to say the least. As I've shared previous (Note: completely, full on woo-woo here...not of the realm of Truth...experience/appearance only) mere moments following her death, had an amazing telepahtic convo with her where she shared that although it all looked awful at the end, there was in fact great value from her vantage point in all that had taken place...literally everything she said, down the apparent shittiest aspect, played it's part in her sense of 'completion'... I’ve had that type of thing confirmed too but still just story. No cause and effect, all just happening and certainly no reason for any of it. Damn it! Yup. Relatively speaking, the story of: my mom experienced what she did because she came here with a pre-life intention of "_______________" can be nice and provide a relative sense of comfort and to some degree capture interest, but it most certainly does not stand up as any kind of absolute Truth.
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Post by Andrew on Jan 3, 2023 22:49:56 GMT
Yup. My mom's last couple of years appeared pretty grizzly, looking on. A lovely, smart, incredibly strong and kind woman her entire life....wonderful mom..doting grandma....Alzheimers that came on quickly...required a dementia unit placement....went steadily downhill, broke hip, lost swallow reflex, died of starvation/dehydration....we thought is would be quick....took over 2 weeks....did not look pleasant to say the least. As I've shared previous (Note: completely, full on woo-woo here...not of the realm of Truth...experience/appearance only) mere moments following her death, had an amazing telepahtic convo with her where she shared that although it all looked awful at the end, there was in fact great value from her vantage point in all that had taken place...literally everything she said, down the apparent shittiest aspect, played it's part in her sense of 'completion'... yeah, can totally relate to that.
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Post by Figgles on Jan 4, 2023 19:05:54 GMT
Damn...that was beautifully put. If ever there were a post to go out on.....
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