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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 12:26:11 GMT
I'm saying we live in a universe reflecting who we are, which we should cherish and celebrate. If you see the world with judgement instead of love, that's the world you will inhabit. Am I a woman? WTF does that have to do with anything? We live in a universe producing who we are. What we are doesn't pre-exist, and there isn't anything reflected by the universe per se. We are part and parcel of the universe, therefore whatever reflection you may think you see, it's just seeing the same materials that you are made from. You certainly didn't create ishimaru. What does being a woman or a man has to do with anything? More than you think, apparently. I did create ishimaru. All you're saying is you've limited consciousness to the brain, you assume that your level of awareness is fixed, and believe that reality is essentially the same for everyone. Make no mistake. It's your creation.
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Post by Theodore on Jun 16, 2017 13:41:53 GMT
We live in a universe producing who we are. What we are doesn't pre-exist, and there isn't anything reflected by the universe per se. We are part and parcel of the universe, therefore whatever reflection you may think you see, it's just seeing the same materials that you are made from. You certainly didn't create ishimaru. What does being a woman or a man has to do with anything? More than you think, apparently. I did create ishimaru. All you're saying is you've limited consciousness to the brain, you assume that your level of awareness is fixed, and believe that reality is essentially the same for everyone. Make no mistake. It's your creation. It's not. I wasn't aware when I was born. I don't choose when rain comes. And I don't choose when I get to poop. All of those, and everything else, aren't my doing. Therefore, it's not my creation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 14:07:46 GMT
I did create ishimaru. All you're saying is you've limited consciousness to the brain, you assume that your level of awareness is fixed, and believe that reality is essentially the same for everyone. Make no mistake. It's your creation. It's not. I wasn't aware when I was born. I don't choose when rain comes. And I don't choose when I get to poop. All of those, and everything else, aren't my doing. Therefore, it's not my creation. What you're describing is the subject/object split. You are not in the world. The world is in You. Not two
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 14:53:30 GMT
I did create ishimaru. All you're saying is you've limited consciousness to the brain, you assume that your level of awareness is fixed, and believe that reality is essentially the same for everyone. Make no mistake. It's your creation. It's not. I wasn't aware when I was born. I don't choose when rain comes. And I don't choose when I get to poop. All of those, and everything else, aren't my doing. Therefore, it's not my creation. In other words, I hear him saying that either you can exist here just as a piece of the created, or you can exist here as the very Creator himself.
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Post by Theodore on Jun 16, 2017 16:01:14 GMT
It's not. I wasn't aware when I was born. I don't choose when rain comes. And I don't choose when I get to poop. All of those, and everything else, aren't my doing. Therefore, it's not my creation. In other words, I hear him saying that either you can exist here just as a piece of the created, or you can exist here as the very Creator himself. Give me an example of existing as the very Creator himself.
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Post by Theodore on Jun 16, 2017 16:03:32 GMT
It's not. I wasn't aware when I was born. I don't choose when rain comes. And I don't choose when I get to poop. All of those, and everything else, aren't my doing. Therefore, it's not my creation. What you're describing is the subject/object split. You are not in the world. The world is in You. Not two There is no receptacle called Me the world can reside in. There is just the experience of World, which is utterly out of control. Saying 'The world is in You' totally reinforces duality.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 17:16:46 GMT
What you're describing is the subject/object split. You are not in the world. The world is in You. Not two There is no receptacle called Me the world can reside in. There is just the experience of World, which is utterly out of control. Saying 'The world is in You' totally reinforces duality. If you'd still the mind once in awhile the simplicity of it all might just dawn on you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 17:19:00 GMT
It's not. I wasn't aware when I was born. I don't choose when rain comes. And I don't choose when I get to poop. All of those, and everything else, aren't my doing. Therefore, it's not my creation. In other words, I hear him saying that either you can exist here just as a piece of the created, or you can exist here as the very Creator himself. That's exactly what I'm saying. His mind is stifling the flow of what's actually being revealed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 18:27:14 GMT
In other words, I hear him saying that either you can exist here just as a piece of the created, or you can exist here as the very Creator himself. Give me an example of existing as the very Creator himself. However we look at creation, we can only look at it from the way you understand it right now. If I give an example of something which is not in your understanding, I would be compelling you to believe me or disbelieve me. Therefore all we can look at is that you are existing here without even knowing what is this 'me'.
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Post by Theodore on Jun 17, 2017 1:55:47 GMT
There is no receptacle called Me the world can reside in. There is just the experience of World, which is utterly out of control. Saying 'The world is in You' totally reinforces duality. If you'd still the mind once in awhile the simplicity of it all might just dawn on you. If you'd stop feeling superior just because you've fully bought in an ancient system of nonsense, the futility of it all might just dawn on you. Do you really think I haven't 'stilled the mind' 'once in a while' and still bashing this stuff that way?
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