Esponja
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Post by Esponja on Jan 27, 2023 6:56:43 GMT
I watched a few parts of these Anna Brown videos. This may be my personal bias, but she struck me as somebody who had some insight and maybe senses the truth of the 'non duality' teaching, but she is too eager to act like a teacher. Maybe I'm just tired of the blah-blah-blah. I don't think the world needs many more people talking-the-talk about non-duality. There are plenty of books and recordings. If we couldn't talk about this stuff in the abstract (ie, talking about 'awareness', 'mind', 'ego', etc), how would we share it or express it? The answer to that may be private and specific to each person. But I doubt that in an "Awakened World", we would have everyone sitting around giving satsang to each other and talking like non-duality gurus. This could be more of my person bias, but I'm not a fan of young people who become professional gurus. Pay your bills like a normal person. I’m grateful for the variety out there. Especially for the first year post recognition, it seemed to help me settle but I enjoyed hearing your take here.
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Post by Figgles on Jan 27, 2023 21:01:49 GMT
This Jed mcKenna quote reminded me of what you say above there; Yeah. I like to remember this one sometimes, from Niz: Be aware of being conscious and seek the source of consciousness. That is all. Very little can be conveyed in words. It is the doing as I tell you that will bring light, not my telling you. The means do not matter much; it is the desire, the urge, the earnestness that count.Amen.
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Post by Figgles on Jun 25, 2023 5:08:03 GMT
I'd say it's an understatement to say that Watts likee Gurdjeiff;
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Post by Figgles on Jun 25, 2023 14:26:17 GMT
He makes a few very good points (beyond his conflating of mystical experience with Truth)....one being that there is a vast difference between 'trying' to see the harmony/beauty/perfection inherent to life vs. actually seeing/experiencing life as harmonious and beautiful. As he aptly says; If you truly saw it that way, there would be no need to 'try.' In 'trying' you are actually denoting that you do not see it that way. Hehe...no brainer! But sometimes they warrant sayin'!
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Post by Figgles on Jun 25, 2023 14:38:23 GMT
He makes a few very good points (beyond his conflating of mystical experience with Truth)....one being that there is a vast difference between 'trying' to see the harmony/beauty/perfection inherent to life vs. actually seeing/experiencing life as harmonious and beautiful. As he aptly says; If you truly saw it that way, there would be no need to 'try.' In 'trying' you are actually denoting that you do not see it that way. Hehe...no brainer! But sometimes they warrant sayin'! & as cool a dude was Alan Watts, he's clearly conflating the experience of a harmonized, beautiful, perfect, fully loved and embraced world with the realization/absence that lies foundational to that quality of experience. I think this erroneous conflation is the most common 'mistake' when folks deem SR to be the case when it isn't yet. There's that sort of 'reverse engineering' delusion Watts himself alludes to in the video, whereby folks think if they can attain such a harmonious experiential sense of the world, then by virtue of that, wakefulenss/SR must therefore be the case. It really is possible to experience a harmonious, beautiful world at times, without having seen through separation. And even when SR/wakefulness IS the case, that does not necessarily mean that every moment of experience of the world is going to be rife with that complete sense of harmony/liking it all. He's for sure doing a bit of a context mix as he upholds 'nice/good feelings' about experience and equates them a deeper sense that all is fundamentally perfect. It is true that they 'can' go hand in hand, however, the realization of fundamental perfection does not necessary mean 'nice/good feelings' will always be arising. The very nature of feeling is that it moves....changes....dances...
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Post by Figgles on Jun 27, 2023 15:53:40 GMT
This particular vid from a year ago, quite good actually if you can look past a few glaring concessions to mind. She's very hit & miss these days...which naturally brings into question if her awakening is abiding or if it comes and goes.
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