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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 0:11:30 GMT
Communism doesn't scare me, neither does socialism, so I'm not afraid of Democrats Not scared of Republicans either, nor do I hate the things I disagree with And most governments and bureaucracies eventually become inefficient.. because people suck and their work reflects that Am I'm not a fucking troll dude, stop saying it or I'll stop talking aw c'mon man, we've all trolled each other many times over the years. heh heh me an figs had epic troll battles in the megathreads, 'member? Your implication of hate and fear are unfounded. WIBIGO is sometimes stark, and ugly, but any fear or hatred you're imputing onto what I'm writing is projection.
That said, Communists were responsible for genocides in the Soviet Union and China that dwarfed what Hitler did. The Communist governments in Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea preside over societies that can barely feed and cloth themselves, much less educate their population or progress the science and technology of their culture. Now, some of these issues get quite complex, but if these results don't give you pause, if they don't "scare" you to one degree or another, then I'd suggest it's because perhaps you've never considered the underlying details. And I've stated multiple times that I think most of the right-wing gadfly's are stuck in the ideological battles of the past. The kleptocratic uniparty and their globalist master's aren't really "Communist", although it does seem to me that they're taking some of Lenin and Mao's playbooks and using global socialism as a band of useful idiots. I'll grant you this: the alt media has done a trick of language by conflating socialism with communism. In my opinion, "you didn't build that" was going too far, but pointing out the shared responsibility for roads and schools was an excellent point, and I think many maga likely take for granted just how much socialism they have in their lives that is actually rather indispensable to them. The real peril going on right now isn't "Communism", it's Authoritarianism, and the corporatist media played a grand game of projection by tyring to paint Trump as a fascist dictator, when the facts not only prove otherwise, but bear out the truth of that about those that Trump opposed.
I'll read this later.. and silly and petty perhaps.. but it's a word with a negative connotation that I don't want to amplify or be associated with unnecessarily. All good regardless.
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Post by muttley on Mar 15, 2021 0:14:18 GMT
It's ultimately a DWAD. Allow me to demonstrate. What would you do if an FBI agent - or any other law enforcement, for that matter - knocked on your door and asked you to come in for an interview, and why? I'm suggesting that there are some unexamined assumptions here. I can understand why you think some of what I'm writing is "conspiracy theory", but I can name (and link to the facts for) several politically oriented prosecutions initiated by the FBI that are based on literal charges of "conspiracy" that either have been revealed as based on falsehood or that are currently falling apart. To you see the irony in that? For either of us, it's all nth-hand information, and it comes down to why we believe who we believe. That's why I'm asking you, what is your basis for trusting the FBI as an institution? It's funny, but I've been conditioned to think that this sort of question is within my 1st amendment right to pose on a public forum, but at this point I really wouldn't be very surprised if I won't be able to board an airplane any time soon. One example that makes your point does not a case make. There's more than one, and I'm not trying to make a case, just explaining to you the relevance of the question: what is the basis for your trust in the FBI as an institution? The irony of resorting to the epithet of "conspiracy theory" is quite palpable, and it was amusing for me to point that out.
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Post by muttley on Mar 15, 2021 0:16:49 GMT
aw c'mon man, we've all trolled each other many times over the years. heh heh me an figs had epic troll battles in the megathreads, 'member? Your implication of hate and fear are unfounded. WIBIGO is sometimes stark, and ugly, but any fear or hatred you're imputing onto what I'm writing is projection.
That said, Communists were responsible for genocides in the Soviet Union and China that dwarfed what Hitler did. The Communist governments in Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea preside over societies that can barely feed and cloth themselves, much less educate their population or progress the science and technology of their culture. Now, some of these issues get quite complex, but if these results don't give you pause, if they don't "scare" you to one degree or another, then I'd suggest it's because perhaps you've never considered the underlying details. And I've stated multiple times that I think most of the right-wing gadfly's are stuck in the ideological battles of the past. The kleptocratic uniparty and their globalist master's aren't really "Communist", although it does seem to me that they're taking some of Lenin and Mao's playbooks and using global socialism as a band of useful idiots. I'll grant you this: the alt media has done a trick of language by conflating socialism with communism. In my opinion, "you didn't build that" was going too far, but pointing out the shared responsibility for roads and schools was an excellent point, and I think many maga likely take for granted just how much socialism they have in their lives that is actually rather indispensable to them. The real peril going on right now isn't "Communism", it's Authoritarianism, and the corporatist media played a grand game of projection by tyring to paint Trump as a fascist dictator, when the facts not only prove otherwise, but bear out the truth of that about those that Trump opposed.
I'll read this later.. and silly and petty perhaps.. but it's a word with a negative connotation that I don't want to amplify or be associated with unnecessarily. All good regardless. Ok, I understand why you took offense at it, and it's definitely my bad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 0:17:11 GMT
What is my basis for trusting them? What the fuck? I didn't say I trusted them, I said I didn't mistrust them There is a difference It's ultimately a DWAD. Allow me to demonstrate. What would you do if an FBI agent - or any other law enforcement, for that matter - knocked on your door and asked you to come in for an interview, and why? I'm suggesting that there are some unexamined assumptions here. I can understand why you think some of what I'm writing is "conspiracy theory", but I can name (and link to the facts for) several politically oriented prosecutions initiated by the FBI that are based on literal charges of "conspiracy" that either have been revealed as based on falsehood or that are currently falling apart. To you see the irony in that? For either of us, it's all nth-hand information, and it comes down to why we believe who we believe. That's why I'm asking you, what is your basis for trusting the FBI as an institution? It's funny, but I've been conditioned to think that this sort of question is within my 1st amendment right to pose on a public forum, but at this point I really wouldn't be very surprised if I won't be able to board an airplane any time soon. It's not a dwad.. and if you had a quieter mind you could see it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 0:22:24 GMT
I'll read this later.. and silly and petty perhaps.. but it's a word with a negative connotation that I don't want to amplify or be associated with unnecessarily. All good regardless. Ok, I understand why you took offense at it, and it's definitely my bad. No offense, but I can be funny about some things.. as I'm sure you've observed over time
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Post by muttley on Mar 15, 2021 4:38:55 GMT
History demonstrates that the endless struggle for power always results in profound hypocrisy, madness, oppression and atrocity. There have been archeological discoveries both at the start of the bronze age and at the end of the first settled culture in Europe that suggest massacres. It's been on an endless loop, probably since the existential delusion first took hold. People peeps are fuckin' nasty! Yes! (** snicker **)
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Post by muttley on Mar 15, 2021 5:07:03 GMT
It's ultimately a DWAD. Allow me to demonstrate. What would you do if an FBI agent - or any other law enforcement, for that matter - knocked on your door and asked you to come in for an interview, and why? I'm suggesting that there are some unexamined assumptions here. I can understand why you think some of what I'm writing is "conspiracy theory", but I can name (and link to the facts for) several politically oriented prosecutions initiated by the FBI that are based on literal charges of "conspiracy" that either have been revealed as based on falsehood or that are currently falling apart. To you see the irony in that? For either of us, it's all nth-hand information, and it comes down to why we believe who we believe. That's why I'm asking you, what is your basis for trusting the FBI as an institution? It's funny, but I've been conditioned to think that this sort of question is within my 1st amendment right to pose on a public forum, but at this point I really wouldn't be very surprised if I won't be able to board an airplane any time soon. It's not a dwad.. and if you had a quieter mind you could see it A deliberately locked-down and suppressed mind, isn't quiet. .. you mistakenly claim my distrust of the FBI is conspiratorial, while remaining unconscious of the reasons for your misplaced trust.
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Post by muttley on Mar 15, 2021 5:09:36 GMT
Ok, I understand why you took offense at it, and it's definitely my bad. No offense, but I can be funny about some things.. as I'm sure you've observed over time yeah yeah it's one 'o the things I luv 'bout ya' but it gets tricky when the humor line gets blurred with "serious stuff".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 7:23:42 GMT
It's not a dwad.. and if you had a quieter mind you could see it A deliberately locked-down and suppressed mind, isn't quiet. .. you mistakenly claim my distrust of the FBI is conspiratorial, while remaining unconscious of the reasons for your misplaced trust. While you continue your baseless claim that I unilaterally trust the FBI, even though what I said was I don't currently have any specific reason to mistrust them. When you automatically trust something you're giving it an unfair deference.. and when you automatically distrust something because of yesterday's failings then you're not giving today a fair shot. besides, doubt and suspicion is not an indicator of a quiet undisturbed mind
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 7:36:04 GMT
No offense, but I can be funny about some things.. as I'm sure you've observed over time yeah yeah it's one 'o the things I luv 'bout ya' but it gets tricky when the humor line gets blurred with "serious stuff". Humor is always available, and seriousness is the work of dull shallow people who insist their narrow points be coddled and respected
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