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Post by Figgles on Aug 27, 2020 2:11:55 GMT
‘Morality pills’ may be the US’s best shot at ending the coronavirus pandemic, according to one ethicist Parker Crutchfield - Associate Professor of Medical Ethics, Humanities and Law, Western Michigan University theconversation.com/morality-pills-may-be-the-uss-best-shot-at-ending-the-coronavirus-pandemic-according-to-one-ethicist-142601"Democratically enacted enforceable rules – mandating things like mask wearing and social distancing – might work, if defectors could be coerced into adhering to them. But not all states have opted to pass them or to enforce the rules that are in place.My research in bioethics focuses on questions like how to induce those who are noncooperative to get on board with doing what’s best for the public good. To me, it seems the problem of coronavirus defectors could be solved by moral enhancement: like receiving a vaccine to beef up your immune system, people could take a substance to boost their cooperative, pro-social behavior. Could a psychoactive pill be the solution to the pandemic?It’s a far-out proposal that’s bound to be controversial, but one I believe is worth at least considering, given the importance of social cooperation in the struggle to get COVID-19 under control." "For example, oxytocin, the chemical that, among other things, can induce labor or increase the bond between mother and child, may cause a person to be more empathetic and altruistic, more giving and generous. The same goes for psilocybin, the active component of “magic mushrooms.” These substances have been shown to lower aggressive behavior in those with antisocial personality disorder and to improve the ability of sociopaths to recognize emotion in others. These substances interact directly with the psychological underpinnings of moral behavior; others that make you more rational could also help. Then, perhaps, the people who choose to go maskless or flout social distancing guidelines would better understand that everyone, including them, is better off when they contribute, and rationalize that the best thing to do is cooperate." "Another challenge is that the defectors who need moral enhancement are also the least likely to sign up for it. As some have argued, a solution would be to make moral enhancement compulsory or administer it secretly, perhaps via the water supply. These actions require weighing other values. Does the good of covertly dosing the public with a drug that would change people’s behavior outweigh individuals’ autonomy to choose whether to participate? Does the good associated with wearing a mask outweigh an individual’s autonomy to not wear one? The scenario in which the government forces an immunity booster upon everyone is plausible. And the military has been forcing enhancements like vaccines or “uppers” upon soldiers for a long time. The scenario in which the government forces a morality booster upon everyone is far-fetched. But a strategy like this one could be a way out of this pandemic, a future outbreak or the suffering associated with climate change. That’s why we should be thinking of it now."
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Post by muttley on Aug 27, 2020 12:20:37 GMT
I think you're right. The very fact that Bill Gates for one, has been unabashedly sharing his 'plan' for the world and upholds himself as a philanthropist who is doing wonderful things, speaks loudly to that. Gotta wonder how that feels to him to go from being so widely accepted as a generous, caring rich guy who is willing to spend his time and money making the world a better place, to now having his name pop up all over the internet as a cog in the wheel of an evil world takeover. I wonder if that was all a twist he saw coming? I can only imagine he's squirming a bit, wondering how to get back to that place of wide, implicit trust. Well said. The last gal that unfriended me on fb (yeah...they're dropping like flies..hehe) had come to my page to respond to a post where I was alerting to the fact that a restaurant in our area was doing contact tracing...demanding personal info. or turning you away. Several folks piped up that in BC most restaurants are doing this, thus, they just give fake info. I suggested having a bit of fun with it, "Ben Dover"...."867-5309" kinda stuff and there was a nice aura of kinship and then that gal responded with the accusation that giving fake names is not being "a good human," that it's "unkind" because there are those who are depending upon contact tracing to help them feel more safe. I replied that pandering to delusions is not kindness and well, it went downhill pretty fast from there.... we all know how well that one goes over. But yes, all this does have the potential to perhaps get folks looking deeper and wouldn't it be something if there's sincerity there in a few of those cases and maybe with that, a little loosening of the grasp upon the very idea that "thinking I am safe" is always the most important thing. haha yes. I also get the impression that Gates is quite flabberghast at how this has played out....his 'benevolent' strategy worked brilliantly for Rockefeller 100 years ago, so I guess he fully expected it to work for him These two images are from a "Carnegie Library" that I first encountered as a child: 1, 2, and this is Rocky Center, where a substantial amount of private money was devoted to public space. Rocky learned his philanthropy from Carnegie. Perhaps it's an interesting irony that the benefit of the charity of these barron's seems almost inverse to the harm they did. I mean, compared to Carnegie, Gates is a saint .. all Gates did in his working life is create delay and waste people's time and energy, make them vulnerable to hackers and perhaps suppressed a few markets. Carnegie actually hired goons to kill and injure people and profited hellish working conditions. That library is still benefitting the least fortunate to this day by offering free internet access, and it's always packed. Has Gates ever built a single structure with his money, I wonder? Yeah, flabberghasted, .. heh heh.
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Post by muttley on Aug 27, 2020 12:22:12 GMT
‘Morality pills’ may be the US’s best shot at ending the coronavirus pandemic, according to one ethicist Parker Crutchfield - Associate Professor of Medical Ethics, Humanities and Law, Western Michigan University theconversation.com/morality-pills-may-be-the-uss-best-shot-at-ending-the-coronavirus-pandemic-according-to-one-ethicist-142601"Democratically enacted enforceable rules – mandating things like mask wearing and social distancing – might work, if defectors could be coerced into adhering to them. But not all states have opted to pass them or to enforce the rules that are in place.My research in bioethics focuses on questions like how to induce those who are noncooperative to get on board with doing what’s best for the public good. To me, it seems the problem of coronavirus defectors could be solved by moral enhancement: like receiving a vaccine to beef up your immune system, people could take a substance to boost their cooperative, pro-social behavior. Could a psychoactive pill be the solution to the pandemic?It’s a far-out proposal that’s bound to be controversial, but one I believe is worth at least considering, given the importance of social cooperation in the struggle to get COVID-19 under control." "For example, oxytocin, the chemical that, among other things, can induce labor or increase the bond between mother and child, may cause a person to be more empathetic and altruistic, more giving and generous. The same goes for psilocybin, the active component of “magic mushrooms.” These substances have been shown to lower aggressive behavior in those with antisocial personality disorder and to improve the ability of sociopaths to recognize emotion in others. These substances interact directly with the psychological underpinnings of moral behavior; others that make you more rational could also help. Then, perhaps, the people who choose to go maskless or flout social distancing guidelines would better understand that everyone, including them, is better off when they contribute, and rationalize that the best thing to do is cooperate." "Another challenge is that the defectors who need moral enhancement are also the least likely to sign up for it. As some have argued, a solution would be to make moral enhancement compulsory or administer it secretly, perhaps via the water supply. These actions require weighing other values. Does the good of covertly dosing the public with a drug that would change people’s behavior outweigh individuals’ autonomy to choose whether to participate? Does the good associated with wearing a mask outweigh an individual’s autonomy to not wear one? The scenario in which the government forces an immunity booster upon everyone is plausible. And the military has been forcing enhancements like vaccines or “uppers” upon soldiers for a long time. The scenario in which the government forces a morality booster upon everyone is far-fetched. But a strategy like this one could be a way out of this pandemic, a future outbreak or the suffering associated with climate change. That’s why we should be thinking of it now." .. this guy, he's at self-awareness level, 0. Maybe it's even a parody.
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Post by Figgles on Aug 28, 2020 21:31:43 GMT
‘Morality pills’ may be the US’s best shot at ending the coronavirus pandemic, according to one ethicist Parker Crutchfield - Associate Professor of Medical Ethics, Humanities and Law, Western Michigan University theconversation.com/morality-pills-may-be-the-uss-best-shot-at-ending-the-coronavirus-pandemic-according-to-one-ethicist-142601"Democratically enacted enforceable rules – mandating things like mask wearing and social distancing – might work, if defectors could be coerced into adhering to them. But not all states have opted to pass them or to enforce the rules that are in place.My research in bioethics focuses on questions like how to induce those who are noncooperative to get on board with doing what’s best for the public good. To me, it seems the problem of coronavirus defectors could be solved by moral enhancement: like receiving a vaccine to beef up your immune system, people could take a substance to boost their cooperative, pro-social behavior. Could a psychoactive pill be the solution to the pandemic?It’s a far-out proposal that’s bound to be controversial, but one I believe is worth at least considering, given the importance of social cooperation in the struggle to get COVID-19 under control." "For example, oxytocin, the chemical that, among other things, can induce labor or increase the bond between mother and child, may cause a person to be more empathetic and altruistic, more giving and generous. The same goes for psilocybin, the active component of “magic mushrooms.” These substances have been shown to lower aggressive behavior in those with antisocial personality disorder and to improve the ability of sociopaths to recognize emotion in others. These substances interact directly with the psychological underpinnings of moral behavior; others that make you more rational could also help. Then, perhaps, the people who choose to go maskless or flout social distancing guidelines would better understand that everyone, including them, is better off when they contribute, and rationalize that the best thing to do is cooperate." "Another challenge is that the defectors who need moral enhancement are also the least likely to sign up for it. As some have argued, a solution would be to make moral enhancement compulsory or administer it secretly, perhaps via the water supply. These actions require weighing other values. Does the good of covertly dosing the public with a drug that would change people’s behavior outweigh individuals’ autonomy to choose whether to participate? Does the good associated with wearing a mask outweigh an individual’s autonomy to not wear one? The scenario in which the government forces an immunity booster upon everyone is plausible. And the military has been forcing enhancements like vaccines or “uppers” upon soldiers for a long time. The scenario in which the government forces a morality booster upon everyone is far-fetched. But a strategy like this one could be a way out of this pandemic, a future outbreak or the suffering associated with climate change. That’s why we should be thinking of it now." .. this guy, he's at self-awareness level, 0. Maybe it's even a parody. I hope so!
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Post by Enigma on Aug 31, 2020 14:08:47 GMT
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Post by Enigma on Sept 12, 2020 3:27:48 GMT
This is partly to show you the beautiful tribute to Dr Coleman by his new format, and to show you that format, toadally free of censorship. Vernon's videos have been relentless banned by youtube to the point that he was driven away. I, for one, welcome his simple wisdom back, in the form of brandnewtube.
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Post by Figgles on Sept 12, 2020 14:57:35 GMT
This is partly to show you the beautiful tribute to Dr Coleman by his new format, and to show you that format, toadally free of censorship. Vernon's videos have been relentless banned by youtube to the point that he was driven away. I, for one, welcome his simple wisdom back, in the form of brandnewtube. "I'm back....ya didn't think you'd get rid of me that easily".... ...hehe....perfect message....glad to see you back too E! ....hope it means all is well in your neck of the woods. Yes, love Vernon Coleman.....looks like he's been the butt of much censorship as have so many who are going off the narrative....looks like there's several new video platforms popping up now which is awesome to see...tis the 1st I've heard of "brand Newtube"...love it!
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Post by Enigma on Sept 20, 2020 16:40:19 GMT
This is partly to show you the beautiful tribute to Dr Coleman by his new format, and to show you that format, toadally free of censorship. Vernon's videos have been relentless banned by youtube to the point that he was driven away. I, for one, welcome his simple wisdom back, in the form of brandnewtube. "I'm back....ya didn't think you'd get rid of me that easily".... ...hehe....perfect message....glad to see you back too E! ....hope it means all is well in your neck of the woods. Yes, love Vernon Coleman.....looks like he's been the butt of much censorship as have so many who are going off the narrative....looks like there's several new video platforms popping up now which is awesome to see...tis the 1st I've heard of "brand Newtube"...love it! I've become attached to Vernon because of his honesty and courage; something I hope becomes infectious and turns into a worldwide pandemic of integrity.
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Post by Figgles on Sept 20, 2020 17:50:55 GMT
"I'm back....ya didn't think you'd get rid of me that easily".... ...hehe....perfect message....glad to see you back too E! ....hope it means all is well in your neck of the woods. Yes, love Vernon Coleman.....looks like he's been the butt of much censorship as have so many who are going off the narrative....looks like there's several new video platforms popping up now which is awesome to see...tis the 1st I've heard of "brand Newtube"...love it! I've become attached to Vernon because of his honesty and courage; something I hope becomes infectious and turns into a worldwide pandemic of integrity.Yes! Agreed. Whatever they hell you & Marie did to bring on the rain.... get busy!!
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Post by Enigma on Sept 21, 2020 1:27:10 GMT
I've become attached to Vernon because of his honesty and courage; something I hope becomes infectious and turns into a worldwide pandemic of integrity.Yes! Agreed. Whatever they hell you & Marie did to bring on the rain.... get busy!! We're working on it. Buckle up!
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