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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 4:51:08 GMT
It definitely does! If you don't know, then you still haven't seen through this illusion. Create anything with your intention, then it would define it's opposite. As for as I know, you completely unaware of the way consciousness creates the reality. You're living in a fantasy world. You don't know consciousness creates the reality. I can give you the taste of it by pointing at your nightly dream.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 4:51:17 GMT
It is definitely possible. For an example, the bigger example is zendancer, after realizing the truth of 'there is no doer', he is accepting the irritation, anger and everything else comes along his way as All That Is is creating. There is no acceptance of irritation or anger. You want to get angry then get angry. The question is are you suffering if you get angry?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 4:53:29 GMT
Nonsense. You're just playing with words to fit your conceptual non-duality narrative. 😀 I'm really not. The SVP gets seen through...gets seen for illusion. Personhood, personality, individuality remains part and parcel of experience, but like ALL experiential content, all perceivables, it's seen to be appearance only. There is a difference between the continued arising of personality, individuality, vs. identification with a who/what/person. Who is doing the seeing through? You can't answer that or don't want to because it doesn't fit your agenda.
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Post by Figgles on Dec 9, 2019 4:56:07 GMT
I'm really not. The SVP gets seen through...gets seen for illusion. Personhood, personality, individuality remains part and parcel of experience, but like ALL experiential content, all perceivables, it's seen to be appearance only. There is a difference between the continued arising of personality, individuality, vs. identification with a who/what/person. Who is doing the seeing through? You can't answer that or don't want to because it doesn't fit your agenda. What gets seen through, Is the 'who'!!!! The idea that a 'who' is doing stuff, is an illusion that must be seen through if separation is to be seen through.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 4:58:01 GMT
Who is doing the seeing through? You can't answer that or don't want to because it doesn't fit your agenda. What gets seen through, Is the 'who'!!!! The idea that a 'who' is doing stuff, is an illusion that must be seen through if separation is to be seen through. Then something must be seeing through the who. I'm sorry but you can't avoid this. Both you and Enigma keep saying that the mind is informed by realization. Now it's time for you to justify that statement.
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Post by Figgles on Dec 9, 2019 5:02:01 GMT
Do you seriously see no difference between the appearance of personality vs. identification with the personality?
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Post by Figgles on Dec 9, 2019 5:04:16 GMT
What gets seen through, Is the 'who'!!!! The idea that a 'who' is doing stuff, is an illusion that must be seen through if separation is to be seen through. Then something must be seeing through the who. I'm sorry but you can't avoid this. Both you and Enigma keep saying that the mind is informed by realization. Now it's time for you to justify that statement. That's a misconception. A delusion.... and a powerful one at that. When it gets seen through, you might even laugh at how tenaciously you held to the idea that 'a who must be seeing through the who.'
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 5:06:31 GMT
Then something must be seeing through the who. I'm sorry but you can't avoid this. Both you and Enigma keep saying that the mind is informed by realization. Now it's time for you to justify that statement. That's a misconception. A delusion.... and a powerful one at that. When it gets seen through, you might even laugh at how tenaciously you held to the idea that 'a who must be seeing through the who.' Don't worry, I'm already laughing. I'll give you a really big clue. There is no such thing as illusion for the realized, only for the seeker.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 5:11:16 GMT
Here's a question for you. If Self-realization means oneness, unity, not two, then how can there be illusion in the reality?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 5:31:27 GMT
It is definitely possible. For an example, the bigger example is zendancer, after realizing the truth of 'there is no doer', he is accepting the irritation, anger and everything else comes along his way as All That Is is creating. There is no acceptance of irritation or anger. You want to get angry then get angry. The question is are you suffering if you get angry? If you are not suffering, then it's a faux anger. That's not anger at all.
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