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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 12:21:49 GMT
Bullshit!
Q: How can the mind be made to go? Ramana: No attempt should be made to destroy it. To think or wish is in itself a thought. If the thinker is sought, the thoughts will disappear. Q: Will they disappear by themselves? It seems so difficult. Ramana: They will disappear because they are unreal. The idea of difficulty is itself an obstacle to realization. It must be overcome. To remain as the Self is not difficult. This thought of difficulty is the chief obstacle. A little practice in discovering the source of 'I' will make you think differently. Absolute freedom from thoughts is the state conducive to such recognition of the Self. Mind is but an aggregate of thoughts. ~ Ramana Maharshi
Well at least you didn't talk about f****** golf! "the jiva, which is in bondage through mental identification with the body, etc., should put forth effort in the form of reflection on the Self in a gradual and sustained manner; and when thus the mind gets destroyed, the jiva would become the Self." Ramana Maharshi ...and.... you don't like fucking golf because...You can't fucking play golf? (spontaneous response ) Jiva Shmiva.... more nonsense based on your particular thought pattern. Have you ever considered that Mind perceives that which is beyond I AM as a void? Maybe you're simply caught in the net.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 12:47:03 GMT
Bullshit!
Q: How can the mind be made to go? Ramana: No attempt should be made to destroy it. To think or wish is in itself a thought. If the thinker is sought, the thoughts will disappear. Q: Will they disappear by themselves? It seems so difficult. Ramana: They will disappear because they are unreal. The idea of difficulty is itself an obstacle to realization. It must be overcome. To remain as the Self is not difficult. This thought of difficulty is the chief obstacle. A little practice in discovering the source of 'I' will make you think differently. Absolute freedom from thoughts is the state conducive to such recognition of the Self. Mind is but an aggregate of thoughts. ~ Ramana Maharshi
Well at least you didn't talk about f****** golf! "the jiva, which is in bondage through mental identification with the body, etc., should put forth effort in the form of reflection on the Self in a gradual and sustained manner; and when thus the mind gets destroyed, the jiva would become the Self." Ramana Maharshi rowan: How much longer is that lame-assed guy in the group ahead of us gonna stand in the fairway and think about his next shot? playing partner: Maybe it's time to send him a message...? rowan: Tee's up the ball real low, reaches for the sky in backswing, and POW... unleashes a mighty FORE to an unconscious duffer holding up play.... In self-enquiry, if you think that you understand it, that you got there, that you found the holy grail, that you know how to do it, then you have not touched anything beyond mind. You have delved deeper into the creativity of your own imagination. ~ Jac O'Keeffe
playing partner: Geez rowan, you damn near stuck that one in his ear. Nice shot. rowan: Hymmmmm...Hymmmmm... fuck hymmmmm....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 12:59:14 GMT
Well at least you didn't talk about f****** golf! "the jiva, which is in bondage through mental identification with the body, etc., should put forth effort in the form of reflection on the Self in a gradual and sustained manner; and when thus the mind gets destroyed, the jiva would become the Self." Ramana Maharshi rowan: How much longer is that lame-assed guy in the group ahead of us gonna stand in the fairway and think about his next shot? playing partner: Maybe it's time to send him a message...? rowan: Tee's up the ball real low, reaches for the sky in backswing, and POW... unleashes a mighty FORE to an unconscious duffer holding up play.... In self-enquiry, if you think that you understand it, that you got there, that you found the holy grail, that you know how to do it, then you have not touched anything beyond mind. You have delved deeper into the creativity of your own imagination. ~ Jac O'Keeffe
playing partner: Geez rowan, you damn near stuck that one in his ear. Nice shot. rowan: Hymmmmm...Hymmmmm... fuck hymmmmm.... If you're going to quote then quote a real sage not a moronic non-dual satsang teacher like Jac O'Keeffe who knows nothing. It's like the blind leading the blind. On second thoughts it would probably be best if you stick with something you know about. I guess that would be golf huh?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 13:03:35 GMT
rowan: How much longer is that lame-assed guy in the group ahead of us gonna stand in the fairway and think about his next shot? playing partner: Maybe it's time to send him a message...? rowan: Tee's up the ball real low, reaches for the sky in backswing, and POW... unleashes a mighty FORE to an unconscious duffer holding up play.... In self-enquiry, if you think that you understand it, that you got there, that you found the holy grail, that you know how to do it, then you have not touched anything beyond mind. You have delved deeper into the creativity of your own imagination. ~ Jac O'Keeffe
playing partner: Geez rowan, you damn near stuck that one in his ear. Nice shot. rowan: Hymmmmm...Hymmmmm... fuck hymmmmm.... If you're going to quote then quote a real sage not a moronic non-dual satsang teacher like Jac O'Keeffe who knows nothing. It's like the blind leading the blind. On second thoughts it would probably be best if you stick with something you know about. I guess that would be golf huh? Yeah sure, flail away.... Why are you so afraid of typing out the word- FUCK- in your posts? Do you THINK if you type the letter F, followed by a shitload of asterisks that you've somehow arrived at a special state of holiness? That's a better example of the blind TRYING to lead the so-called blind.
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Post by Enigma on Oct 6, 2019 13:21:20 GMT
That's the million dollar question. My opinion is that the new Reefs is from a parallel universe where he held some very different opinions, and a freak electrical storm caused him to shift into this reality. In actuality, he's really confused about his own apparent contradictions. You're disturbing my perpetual bliss!
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Post by Enigma on Oct 6, 2019 13:26:24 GMT
Mind need not be destroyed, for freedom to be, just transcended. In transcendence, mind takes a back-seat to Being. Mind is not the enemy. What has E said that has you convinced he's playing mental games? you're the one advocating 'practice' after all.... You have made the intellectual discrimination with conviction between unchanging and changing. It's a legitimate first step of self-examination, but you are stuck there and you are mistaking it for realization because there is no practice to have the direct experience. You are living this separation which you think is oneness and it is reflected in your compulsive obsession with affirming your own state and forcing others to prove to your satisfaction that they are also realized, which you are not. Without practice there is no integration because there is no abiding in the source which leads to the dissolution and destruction of ego which then becomes the totality of freedom as a living reality which cannot be spoken about. Your compulsive intellectual inquiry is a reflection of your own seeking and you are using this forum as a vehicle for it. You need to closely examine what you mean by sharing, because it is not that at all. Without practice you lack the direct experience of the transcendent which is your true nature. Your resistance to practice is based on misconceived ideas about the limited self and your own misunderstood ideas about non-duality. There are no ideas about nonduality, only the experience of the nondual. Although awakening can happen spontaneously, for most, practice is essential. The sages and the scriptures have affirmed this. Why do you resist? What you call intellectual discrimination is simply a statement of not knowing being used to counter the logic and intellectual arguments of others who insist they know something.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 13:34:24 GMT
You're disturbing my perpetual bliss!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 13:45:38 GMT
If you're going to quote then quote a real sage not a moronic non-dual satsang teacher like Jac O'Keeffe who knows nothing. It's like the blind leading the blind. On second thoughts it would probably be best if you stick with something you know about. I guess that would be golf huh? Yeah sure, flail away.... Why are you so afraid of typing out the word- FUCK- in your posts? Do you THINK if you type the letter F, followed by a shitload of asterisks that you've somehow arrived at a special state of holiness? That's a better example of the blind TRYING to lead the so-called blind. I typed FUCK but my Tapatalk app substituted asterisks. Let's see how I get on if I use the browser. Well fuck me!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 13:47:17 GMT
You have made the intellectual discrimination with conviction between unchanging and changing. It's a legitimate first step of self-examination, but you are stuck there and you are mistaking it for realization because there is no practice to have the direct experience. You are living this separation which you think is oneness and it is reflected in your compulsive obsession with affirming your own state and forcing others to prove to your satisfaction that they are also realized, which you are not. Without practice there is no integration because there is no abiding in the source which leads to the dissolution and destruction of ego which then becomes the totality of freedom as a living reality which cannot be spoken about. Your compulsive intellectual inquiry is a reflection of your own seeking and you are using this forum as a vehicle for it. You need to closely examine what you mean by sharing, because it is not that at all. Without practice you lack the direct experience of the transcendent which is your true nature. Your resistance to practice is based on misconceived ideas about the limited self and your own misunderstood ideas about non-duality. There are no ideas about nonduality, only the experience of the nondual. Although awakening can happen spontaneously, for most, practice is essential. The sages and the scriptures have affirmed this. Why do you resist? What you call intellectual discrimination is simply a statement of not knowing being used to counter the logic and intellectual arguments of others who insist they know something. Nice try.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 13:50:52 GMT
Yeah sure, flail away.... Why are you so afraid of typing out the word- FUCK- in your posts? Do you THINK if you type the letter F, followed by a shitload of asterisks that you've somehow arrived at a special state of holiness? That's a better example of the blind TRYING to lead the so-called blind. I typed FUCK but my Tapatalk app substituted asterisks. Let's see how I get on if I use the browser. Well fuck me! Tapatalk.....? Your whole life's meaning has arrived at using Tapatalk? Let that be a lesson to you.
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