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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 3:59:45 GMT
What? Are you trying to be clever? You're introducing a level of complexity that just isn't there. "Abide in the quietude" Niz says. What could be simpler. What is it you need to think about here. Notice what is trying to control what? Unnecessary! Abide in the quitetude and that question won't arise. You seem to go out of your way to make an enigma of the most simple practice. Amazing! No, you are not paying attention here.
That's an act from you, So illusion is definitely behind this act.
Okay so you think Nisargadatta was deluded. This may be a spirituality forum but there is very little that is discussed here that has anything to do with spirituality. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 4:10:02 GMT
It's not denigration, you have to observe carefully here, 'to make up your mind', 'you need to stabilize yourself in meditation', anything you do to attain something is a conscious effort, It's futile. The one who creates the thoughts continue to create these kind of controlling thoughts as long as one is illusion. You create and you experience. But knowing is the key which helps you start creating differently. If something has to happen, that's only out of clarity(Knowing), it's not through any of your effort. I cannot take you seriously because you know nothing about practice which has been at the core of these traditions for centuries. I cannot even engage with you when you make a comment like this. This is why obvious goes unnoticed. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 4:10:51 GMT
I cannot take you seriously because you know nothing about practice which has been at the core of these traditions for centuries. I cannot even engage with you when you make a comment like this. This is why obvious goes unnoticed. I have no interest in what you are saying. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 4:22:01 GMT
This is why obvious goes unnoticed. I have no interest in what you are saying. sure, no problem. I go with the flow  |
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Post by Enigma on May 18, 2019 14:51:04 GMT
Yes, but as long as it's subconscious the mind games will continue. Practicing the mind games is unnecessary. Yes, it's a game, but isn't every people peep always playing some version of it to some degree? The theory goes that if you get them to calm down enough, they might take notice of the existential question .. 'cause, well, for Joe C. T. .. it's just like .. not a thing. Sure, I just think it should be mentioned that mind games is WIBIGO. |
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Post by Enigma on May 18, 2019 14:52:56 GMT
Yes, but as long as it's subconscious the mind games will continue. Practicing the mind games is unnecessary. An experienced meditator would look at your statement and conclude it was you who had the split mind and would suggest you might benefit from practice in order to get rid of it. Somebody like you perhaps?  |
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Post by Enigma on May 18, 2019 14:58:15 GMT
To denigrate spiritual practice in a public forum about spirituality, I find to be quite irresponsible of you. You have no knowledge to make such a claim. It's not denigration, you have to observe carefully here, 'to make up your mind', 'you need to stabilize yourself in meditation', anything you do to attain something is a conscious effort, It's futile. The one who creates the thoughts continue to create these kind of controlling thoughts as long as one is illusion. You create and you experience. But knowing is the key which helps you start creating differently. If something has to happen, that's only out of clarity(Knowing), it's not through any of your effort. I agree, clarity is the key, which makes becoming conscious critical. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 15:01:04 GMT
An experienced meditator would look at your statement and conclude it was you who had the split mind and would suggest you might benefit from practice in order to get rid of it. Somebody like you perhaps? Not somebody like me. Me. 🤣 |
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Post by Enigma on May 18, 2019 15:01:27 GMT
I watch unconscious ego have it's way on these forums and elsewhere on a daily basis. Peeps think they are in control of ego, or at least that they can see what it is doing. Not so. That's why I recommend the 'practice' of becoming conscious. I'm not against practice, I'm against self delusion. Not even an inch is allowed. NO practice, Perhaps one can realize the illusion of practice, not the other way around. Nothing will be reached. Yes, realizing the illusion of practice is useful. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 15:02:12 GMT
It's not denigration, you have to observe carefully here, 'to make up your mind', 'you need to stabilize yourself in meditation', anything you do to attain something is a conscious effort, It's futile. The one who creates the thoughts continue to create these kind of controlling thoughts as long as one is illusion. You create and you experience. But knowing is the key which helps you start creating differently. If something has to happen, that's only out of clarity(Knowing), it's not through any of your effort. I agree, clarity is the key, which makes becoming conscious critical. You become conscious with meditation practice. |
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