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Post by Figgles on May 7, 2017 20:13:50 GMT
Yeah, there is an effort by Reefs to control the way people relate and present themselves to each other. The fact is people are selfish and people cannot not play one-upmanship games. People are hypocritical and intolerant. But when you set up an in-group like they have at ST, as the unselfish, the non hypocritical, the non-game players, the conscious and the tolerant you automatically create it's opposite. But instead of recognizing and accepting their roles and the roles they create as being interrelated, they try to censor everyone who would dare challenge them. They were failing miserably at trying to defend their role and had Reefs step in to silence that which cannot be silenced, because it is part and parcel with their own self-identity. So yeah, Reefs gave himself the role of being the architect of the demise of the ST forum. Correct! Reefs can't even manage himself properly. You don't know about him much, in the past I have seen threads in others forums other than ST about whether Reefs has to be banned or not. One of the forum I have seen the thread was 'Stevepavlina forum'. In the past he said something about harmony and which he clearly contradicts as soon as he become moderator which Figgles has taken and shown to him but immediately he gave the warning. He is not balanced in his own life, I don't know how could ZD can advocate him as a moderator because he is not even has the eligibility to be a member there. Everybody knows that ! I am watching ST is loosing the conversation day by day all teachers of the forum has been waiting to teach somebody but they find no one and argument is also not moving. Only you,Andrew,Tenka's participation is the only reason forum still moves! Yes, hehe...Reefs becoming mod is much like the fox becoming guard of the hen-house. Right up until he had this apparent, dramatic change of heart regarding controlling behavior on the forum, he was easily one of the worst perpetrators of 'indecency'. The worst of it in my estimation was now He nastily challenged those who generously shared personal info. about their lives, such as grief over death of loved ones, mental health issues, marital issues, memory issues, physical health issues. A complete lack of compassion. He would use those sharings to 'prove' that one was talkin' outta his hat when making an assertion. And all the while, he'd coward, and share very, very little about his personal life. If he truly has had some great epiphany where he's seen the light, and now sees the importance of behaving kindly on the forum, I actually have little problem with that, but considering his past ontology with regards to behavior, if he wants to be taken seriously he really should have taken the time to explain why the dramatic change of heart on his part. & I think ZD has such a deep aversion to being challenged himself, that he is willing to do anything to end all forms of challenge on the forum...who knows though. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 22:12:51 GMT
Correct! Reefs can't even manage himself properly. You don't know about him much, in the past I have seen threads in others forums other than ST about whether Reefs has to be banned or not. One of the forum I have seen the thread was 'Stevepavlina forum'. In the past he said something about harmony and which he clearly contradicts as soon as he become moderator which Figgles has taken and shown to him but immediately he gave the warning. He is not balanced in his own life, I don't know how could ZD can advocate him as a moderator because he is not even has the eligibility to be a member there. Everybody knows that ! I am watching ST is loosing the conversation day by day all teachers of the forum has been waiting to teach somebody but they find no one and argument is also not moving. Only you,Andrew,Tenka's participation is the only reason forum still moves! Yes, hehe...Reefs becoming mod is much like the fox becoming guard of the hen-house. Right up until he had this apparent, dramatic change of heart regarding controlling behavior on the forum, he was easily one of the worst perpetrators of 'indecency'. The worst of it in my estimation was now He nastily challenged those who generously shared personal info. about their lives, such as grief over death of loved ones, mental health issues, marital issues, memory issues, physical health issues. A complete lack of compassion. He would use those sharings to 'prove' that one was talkin' outta his hat when making an assertion. And all the while, he'd coward, and share very, very little about his personal life. If he truly has had some great epiphany where he's seen the light, and now sees the importance of behaving kindly on the forum, I actually have little problem with that, but considering his past ontology with regards to behavior, if he wants to be taken seriously he really should have taken the time to explain why the dramatic change of heart on his part. & I think ZD has such a deep aversion to being challenged himself, that he is willing to do anything to end all forms of challenge on the forum...who knows though. Reefs and the aristocracy can't walk the talk when challenged. So Reefs was appointed to make sure they won't ever have to defend thier hypocrisy. But it won't work because they still have to live with how phony thier tolerance really is. Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 18:14:31 GMT
Correct! Reefs can't even manage himself properly. You don't know about him much, in the past I have seen threads in others forums other than ST about whether Reefs has to be banned or not. One of the forum I have seen the thread was 'Stevepavlina forum'. In the past he said something about harmony and which he clearly contradicts as soon as he become moderator which Figgles has taken and shown to him but immediately he gave the warning. He is not balanced in his own life, I don't know how could ZD can advocate him as a moderator because he is not even has the eligibility to be a member there. Everybody knows that ! I am watching ST is loosing the conversation day by day all teachers of the forum has been waiting to teach somebody but they find no one and argument is also not moving. Only you,Andrew,Tenka's participation is the only reason forum still moves! Yes, hehe...Reefs becoming mod is much like the fox becoming guard of the hen-house. Right up until he had this apparent, dramatic change of heart regarding controlling behavior on the forum, he was easily one of the worst perpetrators of 'indecency'. The worst of it in my estimation was now He nastily challenged those who generously shared personal info. about their lives, such as grief over death of loved ones, mental health issues, marital issues, memory issues, physical health issues. A complete lack of compassion. He would use those sharings to 'prove' that one was talkin' outta his hat when making an assertion. And all the while, he'd coward, and share very, very little about his personal life. If he truly has had some great epiphany where he's seen the light, and now sees the importance of behaving kindly on the forum, I actually have little problem with that, but considering his past ontology with regards to behavior, if he wants to be taken seriously he really should have taken the time to explain why the dramatic change of heart on his part. & I think ZD has such a deep aversion to being challenged himself, that he is willing to do anything to end all forms of challenge on the forum...who knows though. Correct! well said. In my view Reefs is not interested in any healthy discussion about existential discussion, he is just interested in using the power over other people, you can see he argues very little about existential issues. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 0:16:28 GMT
Yes, hehe...Reefs becoming mod is much like the fox becoming guard of the hen-house. Right up until he had this apparent, dramatic change of heart regarding controlling behavior on the forum, he was easily one of the worst perpetrators of 'indecency'. The worst of it in my estimation was now He nastily challenged those who generously shared personal info. about their lives, such as grief over death of loved ones, mental health issues, marital issues, memory issues, physical health issues. A complete lack of compassion. He would use those sharings to 'prove' that one was talkin' outta his hat when making an assertion. And all the while, he'd coward, and share very, very little about his personal life. If he truly has had some great epiphany where he's seen the light, and now sees the importance of behaving kindly on the forum, I actually have little problem with that, but considering his past ontology with regards to behavior, if he wants to be taken seriously he really should have taken the time to explain why the dramatic change of heart on his part. & I think ZD has such a deep aversion to being challenged himself, that he is willing to do anything to end all forms of challenge on the forum...who knows though. Correct! well said. In my view Reefs is not interested in any healthy discussion about existential discussion, he is just interested in using the power over other people, you can see he argues very little about existential issues. Reefs seems satisfied to live out his days with just an intellectual understanding of life. Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 6:42:31 GMT
Correct! well said. In my view Reefs is not interested in any healthy discussion about existential discussion, he is just interested in using the power over other people, you can see he argues very little about existential issues. When I first encountered reefs at st.com quite a few years ago, this was his avatar content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2009/08/CoffeeArmy.jpgConstantly referring to his big tin cup.... What a dork!!   okay  |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 6:44:37 GMT
Correct! well said. In my view Reefs is not interested in any healthy discussion about existential discussion, he is just interested in using the power over other people, you can see he argues very little about existential issues. Reefs seems satisfied to live out his days with just an intellectual understanding of life. Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk All I know is, he doesn't have any insight, he is just copying people. When ZD says he has had CC experience, Reefs will come forward and says he has CC experience as well. When ZD says he is SR, then Reefs come forward and says he is SR as well. Copying and proclaiming that you have something while you don't have will clearly reveal the truth about you soon. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 23:10:36 GMT
Reefs seems satisfied to live out his days with just an intellectual understanding of life. Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk All I know is, he doesn't have any insight, he is just copying people. When ZD says he has had CC experience, Reefs will come forward and says he has CC experience as well. When ZD says he is SR, then Reefs come forward and says he is SR as well. Copying and proclaiming that you have something while you don't have will clearly reveal the truth about you soon. Yeah, Consciousness isn't evolving much through copy cats. Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 12:35:42 GMT
All I know is, he doesn't have any insight, he is just copying people. When ZD says he has had CC experience, Reefs will come forward and says he has CC experience as well. When ZD says he is SR, then Reefs come forward and says he is SR as well. Copying and proclaiming that you have something while you don't have will clearly reveal the truth about you soon. Yeah, Consciousness isn't evolving much through copy cats. Sent from my SM-G903W using Tapatalk lol yes |
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Post by Figgles on May 10, 2017 16:51:35 GMT
okay And with that, around that time, he was also fond of saying, "how about a nice hot Cup of STFU". The pic I think, was a symbol for that. Interestingly, Bakk was also fond of that saying at varying junctures. I received a heads-up from someone at another forum at one point, (An LOA, AH forum) who insisted that the Reefs who participated there, was noneother than the 'sharon/wren/bakk' and 'Reefs,' who participated on ST. There were some interesting similarities pointed out; On Sharon's facebook page, (that this person shared with me) indication she belonged to a dub-step group and a Seth teachings group...folks may recall, Reefs created a dubstep thread on ST as well as a Seth teachings/quotes thread....There's a few other things too she pointed out, that do kinda suggest Reefs and Sharon/Bakk may be one & the same. However, I outright asked Sharon if she was in fact Reefs and she wholly denied it, so who knows. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 19:26:12 GMT
okay And with that, around that time, he was also fond of saying, "how about a nice hot Cup of STFU". The pic I think, was a symbol for that. Interestingly, Bakk was also fond of that saying at varying junctures. I received a heads-up from someone at another forum at one point, (An LOA, AH forum) who insisted that the Reefs who participated there, was noneother than the 'sharon/wren/bakk' and 'Reefs,' who participated on ST. There were some interesting similarities pointed out; On Sharon's facebook page, (that this person shared with me) indication she belonged to a dub-step group and a Seth teachings group...folks may recall, Reefs created a dubstep thread on ST as well as a Seth teachings/quotes thread....There's a few other things too she pointed out, that do kinda suggest Reefs and Sharon/Bakk may be one & the same. However, I outright asked Sharon if she was in fact Reefs and she wholly denied it, so who knows. Oh yeah.... I had forgotten about the bolded reference above. I recall having to ask what the acronym meant, upon having it directed my way. Being a new member, I thought it an odd thing to ask on a spiritual discussion board. I had participated on a few boards prior to ST and never encountered a query such as that. I guess that could be seen as cutting edge non dual self inquiry, but I really don't think so. It simply Is what It Is.  You made a really wonderful contribution to that board, figs. Always willing to discuss anything with anybody. You always spoke the truth of your experience. Well done. |
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